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Post Patch 1.2 Healer Survey

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Post Patch 1.2 Healer Survey

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davilorius
04.15.2012 , 01:15 PM | #11
I'd suggest splitting the "most powerful/weakest" questions into pvp and pve questions, you will get different answers
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RuQu
04.15.2012 , 03:02 PM | #12
Been looking over the current level of results.

Among other things, there is a combined 20.5% un-subscription rate among all of the respondents, with 601 respondents at the time I looked at the numbers.

Numbers were higher for Commandos and Sages, but even Scoundrels had 14% loss rate.

Also keep in mind that this question only asked about people unsubscribing because of Patch 1.2, which doesn't capture loss from other sources.
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XtremJedi
04.15.2012 , 04:33 PM | #13
We should keep in mind that there is a natural selection bias to these results. In general, people go out of their way to complain, but do not do so to praise.

Also, in general, the people following these forums might not be said to be a representative sample of players in general.

I would be very careful about any attempt to extrapolate statistics about the general game population from these results. Nevertheless, even taking into account the difficulties of the sample, the results are interesting.

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RuQu
04.15.2012 , 04:54 PM | #14
So I whipped up some code that will process the results for you and create a bunch of Google Doc charts.

You can download it here. I filed it as "deprecated" so it doesn't show up unless you specifically look for it.

To save my sanity you will need to do a couple of simple tasks before it will work.

First, move and delete the time stamp column and the column with flashpoint/WZ etc in it. Since the WZ column is comma separated inside of it but variable in how many entries it had, it was going to be a headache to auto-parse it.

Second, I only processed results with all of the questions answered. This filters out a few (including mine) where people leave an answer blank, but it is still over 550 results so far. Again, for the sake of my sanity.

Finally, download the results as .csv, and put them in the same folder as the program. Run the program from the command line with the file name as the argument and out will pop your answer.

I currently have it as HTML with pretty graphs, but you'd have to host the resulting page somewhere yourself since apparently Google Docs doesn't display uploaded HTML files. I can change the output format to .csv for easy input into Google Docs. You would then need to create your own charts from the uploaded data, but it would easily shared once you did so.
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RuQu
04.15.2012 , 05:08 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by XtremJedi View Post
We should keep in mind that there is a natural selection bias to these results. In general, people go out of their way to complain, but do not do so to praise.

Also, in general, the people following these forums might not be said to be a representative sample of players in general.

I would be very careful about any attempt to extrapolate statistics about the general game population from these results. Nevertheless, even taking into account the difficulties of the sample, the results are interesting.

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Agreed, and some of the earlier posts covered other biases that will influence the results. Even with the biases, the results are worth looking at.

Some of the results I've output so far:

The Scoundrel population rose from 27.3% to 30.2% from 1.1.5 to 1.2.

Acknowledging that there is a selection bias, 22 Percent of Commandos/Mercs, 23% of Sage/Sorc, and 13% of Sc/Op have unsubscribed.

(Note that the pie chart shows the slices by relative size, so the actual unsubscribe %s are what you see when you mouse-over the slices, not the % on the slice. That % shows that 39.7% of those who unsubscribed were Sages, compared to 23% of Sages having unsubscribed).

5% of Sages consider it fully balanced (5), 7.9% of Scoundrels, and 3.7% of Commandos. The not balanced (1) results are 33.7, 17.1, and 31.1%, respectively.

The results for Keeping Healing (5) vs Not Healing (1) are 19.3:33.7 for Sages, 44.7:13.2 for Scoundrels, and 22.2:36.3 for Commandos.
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RuQu
04.15.2012 , 06:43 PM | #16
For ease of use, I updated the parser tool.

You still need to edit out those two columns completely. The spreadsheet should start with the current class in Column A and have no empty columns until after the unsubscribe question.

Other than that, just download as .csv, put them in the same folder, double click, and it will make both a HTML file and a .csv. The HTML will have pretty graphs of the results, and the .csv will upload into Google Docs easily for making/publishing the exact same charts.

*If you are wondering why I would do this, this is what I do when I'm not in the mood to level yet another alt...
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Fizbanic
04.15.2012 , 09:11 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaranok View Post
A QQ survey I love these

Dont worry guys im sure Bioware will see their mistake and put you guys back to the healing you had before 1.2 (the times where you didnt have to feel like people were taking a **** all over you)



I am playing a sorcerer healer myself in PvP and obviously its a bit more challenging now then before (which I myself find more fun)

before 1.2 you could basicly outheal the damage taken by a dps player sitting on top of you and still keep up the members of your team without any real problems (It was really EASY being a healer, most of you prefered it like that it seems).

But dont worry... the rest of you who decides to unsubscribe now just means people who actually can adapt to the games changes can remain and become even better without the likes of you taking up spots for the warzones


Goodluck
You know maybe your argument would have merit if it were actually true.

Now I understand that healing did need tweaking as it was a bit over powered, however when that tweaking takes a class and makes their rule useless is not what is needed.

Prior to this patch I could with a bit of a challenge heal any HM OP but now we keep wiping on first boss and I keep hearing the sorc saying they are out of force all the time now. This is not the way it was intended to be and the steps they took were a bit drastic.

You cannot compare the changes in healing if all you are healing is PVP, as my merc has no problems healing in pvp prior to and after the changes. I can still stay ahead of the damage now as I did previously. The reason it cannot be compared is there is no metric to measure how successful or not of a healer you were in it as you can be an awesome healer and your team can still loose or win.

Going up against a mob there is a metric to measure, was it easier or harder, are you just face rolling or getting your face rolled.
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04.16.2012 , 03:52 PM | #18
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