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10-49 pvp is perfect

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DuriZap
05.01.2012 , 12:09 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
And pre 50 is never equal unless your all the same level and in the same gear.

Here's an idea...get some expertise and stop playing in the kiddie pool.
You sound like you are the kid here TBH.

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Khoraji
05.01.2012 , 12:11 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by DuriZap View Post
You sound like you are the kid here TBH.
???

cool post
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YanksfanJP
05.01.2012 , 12:13 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Tremont View Post
Agreed, they should let us stop getting XP whenever we like.
NO, this would be the worst thing you could do for the bracket. If you stop XP gains, you'll start seeing the same problems you see in the 50 bracket, but adjusted for 10-49:
1) Twink Level 49's decked out in full Oranges and Purples plus Expertise mods and other high-level mods.
2) Premades

The reason 10-49 is fun to play is because this doesn't exist on a large scale. If there are people that do this, it's few and far between. People don't bust their butt to completely outgear everyone at level 49 because they know they'll have to replace it all in a day or two once they hit 50. However, once you make 49 the cap, now people will work to try to outgear everyone with best-in-slot gear plus expertise mods at level 49, so they can wipe the floor with the opponents due to gear disparity.

TLDR: The thing that has enabled 10-49 to be fun is because few people will invest heavily in it, knowing that they'll be 50 soon enough and have it all be a waste of time and money. Remove that and you ruin 10-49 PvP.
I'm not arrogant. I'm just aware of my greatness.

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ExpectWar
05.01.2012 , 12:25 PM | #24
to bad almost no one listens or even watchs the doors in the 10-49 bracket. on my 47 powertech right now it drives me crazy how bad some people are (but hey they're new so what do you expect). people rarely ever go in front of the ball carrier to catch a pass, they would rather attack the guys attacking you lol
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DuriZap
05.01.2012 , 12:27 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
???

cool post
Are you aware of the problem it can be to get geared for one faction on 95% of the servers?

It takes a lot more time spent to get geared on rep side. Especially after 1.2, where pvp gear got a boost.
If you find PvP easy, I bet you are imperial.
Swap sides, and pick a challenge, and see the problem for yourself. Your suggestion is an ok choice/path for the average imperial player. But the average republic player, will not bother, the goal is simply a lot harder to achieve on rep side than imp side.

Ofcourse you can just buy your first set for credits. But honestly, how good is that recruit set vs BM / WH stuff. Yup, it's absolutely useless.

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Dekai
05.01.2012 , 12:28 PM | #26
Ah, pre 50 PvP... Having the best gear possible, leveling strictly through PvP, topping damage, healing and objectives being nigh un-killable. Perfect for me, sure.

For the rest of the team vs our 4 person PvP only pre-made? Ya, bet they are having so much fun never getting a door in Voidstar, getting 3 capped in 2 warzones and getting farmed as we wait out the time for a 5-0 Huttball. In every single match pretty much. Our record was 98 wins straight wins until we went against a fellow pre-made and our heals DC'd.

Ya, pre 50 PvP sure is fair and on a level play field!
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ForsakenKing
05.01.2012 , 12:35 PM | #27
i think ranked will fixed this mess. People with full bm or higher will only want to play in those ranked wzs because that will be the only way to get gear. solves the problem for new 50s since they will be fighting people with a closer gear level in unranked. so start complaining about how BW hasnt brought any ranked wzs in yet instead of whining about 50s that are in most bm or better.

ps, pre-50 is NOT even. just more carefree. there is a HUGE difference between players that have no talents, half there talents, a full tree, and everything in between. youre not going to see a level 20 beat a level 40+ unless that 40 is afk. pre 50 is who has the most abilities, which takes much longer to get than the 1 week of grinding to get a decent amount of bm gear (hell, you can have 2 peices of WH gear once you hit 50 if you pvp enough pre 50). the only people that i think have a right to complain are the ones that had to get there champ through random gear drops back in the day or the people that had to go through the BM rng system and only get 1 out of 10 bags dropping a token...or worse.

so in conclustion, the pvp grind for bm is fine. im doing it on my alts right now. and start asking for ranked.

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Khoraji
05.01.2012 , 12:35 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by DuriZap View Post
Are you aware of the problem it can be to get geared for one faction on 95% of the servers?

It takes a lot more time spent to get geared on rep side. Especially after 1.2, where pvp gear got a boost.
If you find PvP easy, I bet you are imperial.
Swap sides, and pick a challenge, and see the problem for yourself. Your suggestion is an ok choice/path for the average imperial player. But the average republic player, will not bother, the goal is simply a lot harder to achieve on rep side than imp side.

Ofcourse you can just buy your first set for credits. But honestly, how good is that recruit set vs BM / WH stuff. Yup, it's absolutely useless.
Why does it take Republic so much longer to gear? Can you not even get 8 people to Q for a WZ? If so, your server is dead...sry.
Khoraji - Jung Ma - <Dread>
Ven Zallow refugee

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Crunx
05.01.2012 , 12:36 PM | #29
bads find the bracket engaging because the bracket is full of other bads.

Even simple strategy is usually moot as people are god-awful.

Also, "equal-footing" is laughable. It is equal that you as a mid 30s-40s are bad enough to struggle against someone with 5 skills, yes. Beyond that, the talent (as in character talent spec) and abilities gap is just silly. Some people may not even have defensive cooldowns yet.

At 50, everyone has all their talents and abilities. The only difference is gear. Some people pre-made to minimize the amount of awful baddies they have on their team, but thats the benefit of playing a multiplayer game.


Let's just stop with this 10-49 is how PVP should be, because it isn't. 10-49 is a bad player's idea of what good, competitive pvp feels like.

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DuriZap
05.01.2012 , 12:40 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
Why does it take Republic so much longer to gear? Can you not even get 8 people to Q for a WZ? If so, your server is dead...sry.
You ever read the same forums you are on?
Go read dude, I care not to explain what others (including myself) have explained numerous times.
It IS harder. If you don't believe me, I think you live in some kind of fantasy land, where you believe that you win because of skills and not because your faction is averagely outgearing the other faction.