Dekai Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Ah, pre 50 PvP... Having the best gear possible, leveling strictly through PvP, topping damage, healing and objectives being nigh un-killable. Perfect for me, sure. For the rest of the team vs our 4 person PvP only pre-made? Ya, bet they are having so much fun never getting a door in Voidstar, getting 3 capped in 2 warzones and getting farmed as we wait out the time for a 5-0 Huttball. In every single match pretty much. Our record was 98 wins straight wins until we went against a fellow pre-made and our heals DC'd. Ya, pre 50 PvP sure is fair and on a level play field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsakenKing Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) i think ranked will fixed this mess. People with full bm or higher will only want to play in those ranked wzs because that will be the only way to get gear. solves the problem for new 50s since they will be fighting people with a closer gear level in unranked. so start complaining about how BW hasnt brought any ranked wzs in yet instead of whining about 50s that are in most bm or better. ps, pre-50 is NOT even. just more carefree. there is a HUGE difference between players that have no talents, half there talents, a full tree, and everything in between. youre not going to see a level 20 beat a level 40+ unless that 40 is afk. pre 50 is who has the most abilities, which takes much longer to get than the 1 week of grinding to get a decent amount of bm gear (hell, you can have 2 peices of WH gear once you hit 50 if you pvp enough pre 50). the only people that i think have a right to complain are the ones that had to get there champ through random gear drops back in the day or the people that had to go through the BM rng system and only get 1 out of 10 bags dropping a token...or worse. so in conclustion, the pvp grind for bm is fine. im doing it on my alts right now. and start asking for ranked. Edited May 1, 2012 by ForsakenKing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoraji Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Are you aware of the problem it can be to get geared for one faction on 95% of the servers? It takes a lot more time spent to get geared on rep side. Especially after 1.2, where pvp gear got a boost. If you find PvP easy, I bet you are imperial. Swap sides, and pick a challenge, and see the problem for yourself. Your suggestion is an ok choice/path for the average imperial player. But the average republic player, will not bother, the goal is simply a lot harder to achieve on rep side than imp side. Ofcourse you can just buy your first set for credits. But honestly, how good is that recruit set vs BM / WH stuff. Yup, it's absolutely useless. Why does it take Republic so much longer to gear? Can you not even get 8 people to Q for a WZ? If so, your server is dead...sry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunx Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 bads find the bracket engaging because the bracket is full of other bads. Even simple strategy is usually moot as people are god-awful. Also, "equal-footing" is laughable. It is equal that you as a mid 30s-40s are bad enough to struggle against someone with 5 skills, yes. Beyond that, the talent (as in character talent spec) and abilities gap is just silly. Some people may not even have defensive cooldowns yet. At 50, everyone has all their talents and abilities. The only difference is gear. Some people pre-made to minimize the amount of awful baddies they have on their team, but thats the benefit of playing a multiplayer game. Let's just stop with this 10-49 is how PVP should be, because it isn't. 10-49 is a bad player's idea of what good, competitive pvp feels like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuriZap Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Why does it take Republic so much longer to gear? Can you not even get 8 people to Q for a WZ? If so, your server is dead...sry. You ever read the same forums you are on? Go read dude, I care not to explain what others (including myself) have explained numerous times. It IS harder. If you don't believe me, I think you live in some kind of fantasy land, where you believe that you win because of skills and not because your faction is averagely outgearing the other faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larzi Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Let's just stop with this 10-49 is how PVP should be, because it isn't. 10-49 is a bad player's idea of what good, competitive pvp feels like. Well said sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsakenKing Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) Let's just stop with this 10-49 is how PVP should be, because it isn't. 10-49 is a bad player's idea of what good, competitive pvp feels like. Well said sir! i x2 the well said sir thing Edited May 1, 2012 by ForsakenKing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoraji Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 You ever read the same forums you are on? Go read dude, I care not to explain what others (including myself) have explained numerous times. It IS harder. If you don't believe me, I think you live in some kind of fantasy land, where you believe that you win because of skills and not because your faction is averagely outgearing the other faction. I read the forums. And it is full of bad players complaining about stupid things. This thread is no different. Why don't you explain it one more time for us? I go by my experience in-game, not the QQ of the forums. And the republic does just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razot Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) The argument is irrelevant cause its subjective to individual tastes. In my opinion that is also irrelevant is that both suck pretty bad! Edited May 1, 2012 by Razot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuriZap Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I read the forums. And it is full of bad players complaining about stupid things. This thread is no different. Why don't you explain it one more time for us? I go by my experience in-game, not the QQ of the forums. And the republic does just fine. You sir, are full of your own leftovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoraji Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 You sir, are full of your own leftovers. And you have yet to make a point Unless you count "WHAAAAAAAAA" as a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsalcedo Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Equal footing at 50? Thats laughable. Pre-50 is much more "equal" without expertise. No is not my lil sniper with just recruit gear and one piece of bm gear does enough damage and has enough survivability to do well. Even against these over geared players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDruidSS Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 LOL...perfect. As a 41 sniper in level 40 all blue gear (level 40 pvp set). It's far from balanced. I blow people up. If it is a character below 20 they might as well be a free kill. They don't have the abilities or the gear to match me. Actually right now I have the top of the world feeling. Yea people kill me all the time, but given half a chance no one below my level will top my damage or killing blows. Due to lack of abilities I can lock people down or get away easier. It's the same feeling I had on my assassin in the 40s... the pvp feels much easier.. because it is. Then you ding 50 and you are back at the bottom of the barrel again. THAT is why people think 49s bracket is so much better. Because the second you ding 50 you realize you aren't god mode anymore and all the 50s that have been pvping for months pwn you in 4 seconds.. because they are the top of the food chain.... not you. That's how I feel about it anyway. Pre-50 is just as gear dependant as 50 even with the bolster system. People that are in gear closest to their level hit the hardest.... on top of that levels and abilities play an even more important role in performance. That isn't to say that I don't like the bolster system. I think it works better than a lot of games that bracket every 10 levels, but it is far from perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuriZap Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 And you have yet to make a point Unless you count "WHAAAAAAAAA" as a point. I did make a point, in fact several. That you are seemingly too stupid to see it, is not my problem, but rather yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoraji Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I did make a point, in fact several. That you are seemingly too stupid to see it, is not my problem, but rather yours. You said it is harder to gear as a republic. I said why, and you didn't give any other answer. Like I said before, my server is fine. The republic pvp guilds are all geared just as well as we are. Do you even play the game or just listen to forum QQ and take it as fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuriZap Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 You said it is harder to gear as a republic. I said why, and you didn't give any other answer. Like I said before, my server is fine. The republic pvp guilds are all geared just as well as we are. Do you even play the game or just listen to forum QQ and take it as fact? Take your offensive troll slang elsewhere. If you want a discussion, do it properly. You ask me to provide examples of what you are able to read about yourself. That you are on a server where rep is stronger than imp, is an exception, and you should be aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoraji Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) Take your offensive troll slang elsewhere. If you want a discussion, do it properly. You ask me to provide examples of what you are able to read about yourself. . Like I said, I actually play this game, you read about it on the forums. That is the difference between us. Also, if you remember, you started this conversation by calling me a Kid out of the blue You sound like you are the kid here TBH. You sir, are full of your own leftovers. I did make a point, in fact several. That you are seemingly too stupid to see it, is not my problem, but rather yours. Troll (You are on a forum complaining about a game you dont even play) Edited May 1, 2012 by Khoraji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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