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Why no imperial trooper

alienstalker's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:28 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyrolight View Post
While more or less true the gap between Sith and Imperial trooper is far greater then Jedi and Imperial trooper.

Hell a slave acolyte is higher in the pecking order then an imperial trooper.

Imperial troopers are complete cannon fodder where as the Republic troopers are more a kin to roman soldiers. That is they are low but have potential to become respected, Imperial troopers never have that opportunity.

That is what I get from it anyway.
Imperial troopers only don't have that opportunity because the sith are jerks. Not because they are terrible soldiers. I'm sure they are just as good as a republic trooper.

ColonelColt's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:28 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Dianoia View Post
Because Boba Fett is awesome, and Storm Trooper (uncredited) isn't.
Tell that to everyone who loves stormtroopers. Y'know, going back to my SWG love, one thing they did RIGHT is realize that people don't WANT to be the hero. Developers seem to have this notion that people want to be Boba Fett or Han Solo, but this just isn't true mos of the time. A lot of SW fans would much rather be Dash Rendar or Greedo. A lot of fans just want to be someone average, making their way through the universe.

Not everything has to be about "oh my god you're so special", actually that's one thing that bugs me about most every storyline. You're either some super elite trooper who is perfect at everything war-related, or you're some prodigy force user who's the strongest they've seen in millenia. It gets tiresome always being this amazing grandios hero. Sometimes I just wanna be Generic Trooper number 53 standing over there guarding the door as the Jedi does his stuff.

But I digress, that's going a bit off topic.

Drake_Maddox's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:29 PM | #33
Actually if you remembered in the movies the only trooper that was actually important was Commander Cody. Besides him troopers were just expandable clones.

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01.05.2012 , 09:30 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by krisslanza View Post
You're again overestimating the importance of soldiers in the Empire. They have zero authority of any kind. Republic troopers at least have some, particularly the special forces.
It is you who is underestimating the importance of the Imperial troops. My pureblood Sith inquisitor got ordered by Grand Moff Kilran to use a transport to attack a republic cruiser, under threat of being blown out of the sky by the Imperial fleet.

Yeah, your average grunt wouldn't be saying that, but I'd like to see any Republic soldier say that to a Jedi Knight.

alienstalker's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:31 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by krisslanza View Post
You're again overestimating the importance of soldiers in the Empire. They have zero authority of any kind. Republic troopers at least have some, particularly the special forces.

And yes the Agent isn't military, but the game flat out mentions that an Imperial Agent is the pinnacle of power any non-Sith can ever hope to achieve in the Empire. Although I think even a slave acolyte has more authority and power then an Agent.
That's what we are looking for, remember the dwarf common in Dragon age orgins. At the start of the story you didn't have any authority at all and were treated like garbage. You have your own unique story. And your trying not to get on your superiors bad side while at the same time trying to find a way to prove your worth to the empire.

Even if you fail.

alienstalker's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:31 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by MJHoyle View Post
I think he's thinking of storm troopers. Yes there were proper storm troopers dressed in white plastic icecream boxes in the films working for the empire. It does seem a bit odd that there are troopers working for the republic because if memory serves me I never saw any republic troppers in the films, or I just haven't watched star wars enough and need to refresh my memory.
I'm not talking about stormtroopers.

ColonelColt's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:33 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyrolight View Post
I agree there is potential there but the question is could you write it in a satisfying way that would not be too cliche (wins the respect of the sith yada yada) or down right depressing aka 50 levels mimicking what you see in the tomb of Ajunta Pall :P
This is what they hire all those writers for (Y). But even I can come up with some vague outlines as I've already done. You can make a story out of anything and it can be as compelling or cliche as your ability allows. Considering how cliche and predictable the current stories are, I'm sure they'd manage with an Imperial trooper. Course with an Imp trooper they'd have to FINALLY ditch that whole hero ******** I ranted about and actually write a story about generic soldier number 53 instead of some super amazing specforces ****** who can win the war by himself.

DarkestDaemon's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:33 PM | #38
I'll give perspective from the point of view of the Sith Warrior quest line.

I have two Imperial members as companions. Captain Malavai Quinn and Lieutenant Pierce. Pierce is a member of a special forces, the Imperial mirror to squads like Havoc squad (A special forces Republic unit the Republic trooper is apart of).

And he isn't really respected unless you pick the choices to respect him as your character.

The most respected members of the Imperial army are the Moffs, who are more militaristic governors. Of course it's highly unusual for a Moff to actually engage in combat but instead stay back and allow their forces to do the work.

And their forces are normally considered cannon fodder except for the 'deadlier weapons' such as Sith and powerful Bounty Hunters.

Also, while the Bounty Hunter starts out freelance, they do become a Mandalorian. Mandalorians are allied directly to the Empire.

alienstalker's Avatar

01.05.2012 , 09:33 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Ifoughtthelaw View Post
The class system was structured to give mirror gameplay on both sides with as many unique storylines as possible. If you want to serve the Empire as a non Sith, you can be an Agent. If you want to serve the Republic as a non-Jedi, you can be a Trooper. If you want to be a freelancer type character, you can be a Bounty Hunter on Empire side and Smuggler on Republic side.

It is not easy to just create an entire storyline. People want to play BH and it just happens to be a class that could mirror the Trooper well. The storyline of a BH is totally different than that of a Trooper. Having an Imperial Trooper would require tons of different heavy aim gear to drop and having the BH be on both sides would inhibit their ability to actually look like a bounty hunter instead of taking the troopers' gear.

In short: the developers are not gods that can create as many storylines as you want. The trooper and bounty hunter are both heavy armor wearing explosive shooters with completely different storylines.
They don't have to be heavy armor soldiers. They can be light armor, medium armor, or heavy armor.

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01.05.2012 , 09:34 PM | #40
the reason you cant be an imperial trooper is because they are no one.

as a trooper you play as one of the most elite soldiers in the republic

the empire?