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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion

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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion
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Kelticfury
01.18.2012 , 06:31 PM | #2691
Quote: Originally Posted by Niaoru View Post
Good joke, please tell again.
I really doubt that it is anywhere near as bad as people are claiming. Forum criers are always exaggerating, and the funny thing is, they all claim its imps doing the farming, but as that picture the dude posted clearly shows, its a repub farming. So yeah excuse me for using my own brain to chose to doubt the cries on the forums instead of jumping on the whinewagon and cheering on the falsehoods.

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Perpendicular
01.18.2012 , 06:31 PM | #2692
PvP We have an entire team dedicated to adding content and features to player vs. player. We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team. So far very few people have seen, or know much about the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum; when you get to the high levels prepare to be blown away!

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Lavath
01.18.2012 , 06:31 PM | #2693
Quote: Originally Posted by Gorcha View Post
Don't care, married Kira today coz devs allowed me to make a story progress after it was bugged from the start :P
There's some 1v1 action for ya!

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stothe
01.18.2012 , 06:31 PM | #2694
I was wondering if I might be able to put some ideas in your head. I know your looking for a solution to the problem that has become ilum.

Now this is going to sound a bit harsh but hear me out plz.

There is no solution to this problem and the current problem you are facing is one that has killed pvp in many games.

This is why.

In most PVP games you have a controlled environment. Eve its the space that you live in and it costs billions a month to keep a system. IRL a system costs $50 to keep for a month, but anyone can siege it and take over the system. In AOC you had the barracks. SWG you had bunkers you could siege. In your case the camps that you siege to try to take over control of something that has no value to anyone.

SWG phased out the bunkers in the creation of restuss which is a open world pvp world. there was 1 particular area which was a burnt down space port that you got badges for controlling and completing the missions while it was under your control.

Now why doesn't this work. From a admins perspective it doesn't work because there is no way to handle the lag making it harder to maintain. From a players perspective lag makes it not playable.

Your last system encouraged trading for the valor buff your new one encourages blob warfare which isnt fun. So what can one do to fix these issues.

First you need a system that puts vested interest in a player actually focusing on a objective. Make it player owned or guild owned. something of that nature or find a reason to keep them. It is these methods that make WZ's worth while.

Give a common goal and rewards for having them. Think arturic basin with yoru current layout. control these 3 - 5 objectives for 15 mins - a hr your choice your the devs.

this would encourage the ability to control the zone without resorting to blob warfare. you have a potential blob take a area meanwhile smaller forces can take other objectives while the blob is working though the zone making the blob useless.
even if you figure you have 200 people in a zone and 10 objectives thats on a small enough of a scale that the lag is minimal the system is there you just have to rework the mechanics a little add more objectives to defuse the lag potential.

There is no way to completely eliminate the issues but you can minimize them at very least.

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Darthneubauer
01.18.2012 , 06:32 PM | #2695
so where's this update then, it's been about 5 hours
MisterTea

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Happy-Killer
01.18.2012 , 06:32 PM | #2696
Bw says they appreciate our constructive feedback, so here's my 2c.

1. close ilum
2. work on developing a rollback if at all possible
3. if roll back is not possible, underdog faction needs to be buffed in order to stay competetive in pvp. This could be in the form of increased valor/commendation gains, or decreased cost of pvp gear/items/etc
4. put a minimum level requirement on ilum, I'd make it 50
5. implement a queue to join ilum, and keep the populations of both factions balanced within a given range (ie if there are 50 repubs on ilum, max imps would be ~60)
6. create safe zones for each faction with defenses that would not allow the opposing faction to trap them there. (something like turrets with 1,00,000 life and instakill any enemy within range)
7. allow groups of atleast 8 to queue together for Warzones. If guilds dedicated to pvp could all que together and grow together it would give the overpowered imps less of an advantage.

Even though this issue could have been avoided, I know the devs are working as fast as they can to fix it. Good luck devs

p.s. alot of times i refer to the imps as overpowered (mainly bc they are the ones overpowered on my server) but obviously the same applies if repubs are overpowered on a particular server.

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KidGlove
01.18.2012 , 06:32 PM | #2697
Let me list for you the reasons why I am unsubscribing today Jan/18/2012

1. The complete and total unbalance in PvP between Empire and Republic (50 Commando)

2. Everytime i try to patch I get an error telling me to repair. Of course that never works. I followed your lack luster directions given on the forums to run my Fix Launcher, and that did NOTHING. After spending two and a half hours on the phone with your Indian Technical support and being transferred twice, i was told that all i can do is re-install.

3. I get stuck at least 5 times a day

4. I run into glitches at least 5 times a day

5. I often complete the daily pvp but get no credit for it.

6. You have made in abundantly obvious that Bioware favors Empire

And now is i wait 14 hours for my game to re-install, i will think of the money that i am wasting watching my bar fill (Most likely only to get the same error), and how much less angry i got while playing WoW.

P.S. Fire who ever you paided to let you know what the public is thinking on the forums. They are clearly not paying attention

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Vlacke
01.18.2012 , 06:32 PM | #2698
Quote: Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post
Open World PVP on Ilum; when you get to the high levels prepare to be blown away!
Literally!

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Leefn
01.18.2012 , 06:32 PM | #2699
wonder how many that will be battlemaster tomorrow caus of this exploit.

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Niaoru
01.18.2012 , 06:32 PM | #2700
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelticfury View Post
I really doubt that it is anywhere near as bad as people are claiming. Forum criers are always exaggerating, and the funny thing is, they all claim its imps doing the farming, but as that picture the dude posted clearly shows, its a repub farming. So yeah excuse me for using my own brain to chose to doubt the cries on the forums instead of jumping on the whinewagon and cheering on the falsehoods.
Funny, because I was just on Ilum on my server, and I died the second I landed. I rezed, and died again. The only other 20 Republics in the zone were also dieing as they rezed. So I can say with 100% certainty, "Good joke, please tell again."
Niaoru - V65+ Scoundrel/Scrapper
ePeen - Republic PvP/PvE Guild