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SURVEY of Rated WZ team composition

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Xerain
02.15.2013 , 01:57 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by davaniel View Post
You just descended to common troll level.

We've been having this discussion months ago, you're saying nothing new, nor are you answering to any of the arguments stated earlier in this thread.

On the Red Eclipse server we went from 2 or maybe 3 ranked teams to 15 to 20 teams.

Maybe you're just jealous.
Jealous of carebear pvp. Not at all.


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Xerain
02.15.2013 , 02:02 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
^ This. Constant Ranked pops each night. Constant communication between teams and a lot of mutual respect including helping new teams find their feet/learn without getting 4xSmash 1xBubblepop to the face. It may be what some consider "carebear" but it's kept the Ranked community alive on the Red Eclipse.
POT5 has constant rank pops every night also. Everytime a team queue's up with a ton of smash they just get destroyed, you know why? Cause the comp sucks! Had a person from a guild asking me last night why his 2x smash 1x pyro pt focus train weren't shutting people down like it should. Why? because you spread out and smash doesn't hit as many people thus making it less effective. Smash is a 1 of at best IMO.

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UGLYMRJ
02.15.2013 , 02:05 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain View Post
POT5 has constant rank pops every night also. Everytime a team queue's up with a ton of smash they just get destroyed, you know why? Cause the comp sucks! Had a person from a guild asking me last night why his 2x smash 1x pyro pt focus train weren't shutting people down like it should. Why? because you spread out and smash doesn't hit as many people thus making it less effective. Smash is a 1 of at best IMO.
While smash CAN be effective I agree... in a rated game single target burst rules all. Smash can be effective because it can make a healers life hell... but against a good team who sees it and spreads out so someone is not getting those 20K smashes... it then becomes secondary to the burst of carnage or pyrotech.

It does have it's place... but I think it's over rated and fine as is.

Sadly it's going to get nerfed into the ground it looks like. Not gonna complain tho... I prefer carnage or annihilation and even vengeance.

TL;DR I agree

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Xerain
02.15.2013 , 02:12 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
While smash CAN be effective I agree... in a rated game single target burst rules all. Smash can be effective because it can make a healers life hell... but against a good team who sees it and spreads out so someone is not getting those 20K smashes... it then becomes secondary to the burst of carnage or pyrotech.

It does have it's place... but I think it's over rated and fine as is.

Sadly it's going to get nerfed into the ground it looks like. Not gonna complain tho... I prefer carnage or annihilation and even vengeance.

TL;DR I agree
Thank you. IMO the spec was fine before the buff, as in it was still viable as bringing a 1 of if needed.

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EatenByDistance
02.15.2013 , 04:27 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain View Post
Everytime a team queue's up with a ton of smash they just get destroyed, you know why? Cause the comp sucks!
you can run two smash marauders, a smash spec tank gear/stance jugg and another dps and do extremely well lol the spec is not balanced

it's being overnerfed but I'd take that over its current state
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Xerain
02.15.2013 , 04:34 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by EatenByDistance View Post
you can run two smash marauders, a smash spec tank gear/stance jugg and another dps and do extremely well lol the spec is not balanced

it's being overnerfed but I'd take that over its current state
Of course it's getting overnerfed, isn't that what BW does? THey could just revert the changes to the way it was before and it will still be good for pvp.

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UGLYMRJ
02.15.2013 , 04:40 PM | #57
I think it's funny that it's buff was for PvE mainly but they're nerfing it into the ground so it will be useless for both from what I read.

I've never understood why they don't make small tweaks here and there. Just little adjustments with each patch until it fits within other specs instead of doing complete over hauls on multiple specs at once.

Making that many changes at once never ends well... it just creates a new FOTM.

Maybe it's intentional so everyone has their moment in the spotlight. IDK...

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Xerain
02.15.2013 , 05:00 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
I think it's funny that it's buff was for PvE mainly but they're nerfing it into the ground so it will be useless for both from what I read.

I've never understood why they don't make small tweaks here and there. Just little adjustments with each patch until it fits within other specs instead of doing complete over hauls on multiple specs at once.

Making that many changes at once never ends well... it just creates a new FOTM.

Maybe it's intentional so everyone has their moment in the spotlight. IDK...
Having 1 class/spec in the spot light at a time is lame. I want diversity!

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AngelofCain
02.15.2013 , 05:59 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain View Post
Having 1 class/spec in the spot light at a time is lame. I want diversity!
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UGLYMRJ
02.15.2013 , 06:02 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain View Post
Having 1 class/spec in the spot light at a time is lame. I want diversity!
I couldn't agree more... which is why I'm even more frustrated with the massive changes coming soon when they could have been tweaking ALL of the classes little by little with each patch.

This is not the way to find balance. You don't build a house of cards by throwing the deck at the wall.