GlowRage Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I've been trying to figure this out and can't really seem to come up with a good answer. Why do Tionese Crystals exist? At first I thought it was to limit your buying power of the Tionese gear, but you will always have more crystals than commendations, due to how frequently they drop in hard modes. I honestly have no idea why they are even in the game, and why they couldn't just make each boss drop one commendation, and adjust the price of gear accordingly. Has Bioware ever commented on this, or does anyone have a theory as to why they exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealBoz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Most hilarious detail: Tionese is the lowest endgame PvE gear level. In order to get a single piece of gear through Tionese crystals and commendations, you'd have to complete two dozen hard mode flashpoints. You'd also have to be the unluckiest dude in the universe and get NO drops for your class in all 24 FPs you do. And over two thirds of those items are actually better than Tionese. Bottom line: The commendations, crystals and vendor serve NO purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildadar Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Agreed that they are useless. All I use them for (and Columi to a certain degree now) is for pet food. But my Quinn does look like a raiding pimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldlol Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 They're there for the sole purpose of gearing your most hated companions, since columi/champion gear is so easy your main companions get that - but the ones you don't like get stuck with Tionese! It's basically a guild consensus for us that we hope BW will introduce some other vendor, that makes the crystals useful.. How about Quick-Growth Agent for tionese crystals?!! Sounds great right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnybigboy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I currently have 416 tionese crystals and my all of my columni drops. I think the only use I will ever get from having them is writing this post. Edited January 23, 2012 by jonnybigboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MareLooke Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Most hilarious detail: Tionese is the lowest endgame PvE gear level. In order to get a single piece of gear through Tionese crystals and commendations, you'd have to complete two dozen hard mode flashpoints. You'd also have to be the unluckiest dude in the universe and get NO drops for your class in all 24 FPs you do. And over two thirds of those items are actually better than Tionese. Bottom line: The commendations, crystals and vendor serve NO purpose. And to note that the bonus bosses (that drop Tionese gear) are usually harder than the rest of the bosses in the instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwick Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 While I do agree the ratio does not make any sense, I did use the vendor three times now. This is thanks to doing operations and HC modes giving the other commendations. I think in the current state, Bioware should lower the ratio of required commendations. In terms of tionese crystals, let us buy items from them. For example upgrades, stims, scrolls, crafting blues/purples, etc. The same thing WoW did with their tokens. It was a nice way to make life easier on raiders. Even when done you could sell some of the stuff to pay for repairbills (not that it's really needed ATM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftclickz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) if you could buy materials or consumables with tionese crystals i'd be quite pleased tbh cuz atm theyre about as useful as **** on a nun Edited January 23, 2012 by Leftclickz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMBender Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 agreed have several hundred or so and have only used em to buy companion gear, Hopefully at some point they'll allow a swap for coms/crystals like in beta, but who knows what the thought process is on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterone Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Tionese is useless, as others have said. And for it to require commendations and crystals on top of that is strange. Oh well, I have no use for it, completely useless items for me, I guess I won't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissakias Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Tionese are for failed PUGs that dont make it to final boss a small boost to your attributes to have better chance to reach the final boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crashmedc Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I've been trying to figure this out and can't really seem to come up with a good answer. Why do Tionese Crystals exist? At first I thought it was to limit your buying power of the Tionese gear, but you will always have more crystals than commendations, due to how frequently they drop in hard modes. I honestly have no idea why they are even in the game, and why they couldn't just make each boss drop one commendation, and adjust the price of gear accordingly. Has Bioware ever commented on this, or does anyone have a theory as to why they exist? I felt the same as you until I started doing Operations. Now I can see the full system and what they might have been hoping to do with it. Normal mode Ops bosses drop the extra tionese commendations that you were looking for in HM FPs without as many crystals. To me, after having cleared normal and hard mode EV and KP, I can see how Bioware made this system to help raiders fill in gaps when RNG loot drops keep missing your class. So; HM FPs - a lot of crystals and a few commendations; gives you the taste of gear and you can see the light at the end of the tunnel NM Ops - a few crystals (I think there were some) and a lot of commendations so that if you're doing both at the same time, the ratio does seem appropriate to the cost of an item HM Ops - columi commendations to fill that gap Just my opinion, but I don't think the purpose is to help people only running HM FPs get all their gear in a week or two (yes its possible... I did it, but not the purpose of the system). A good development team will make it possible, but still a time sink. Some people will find the amount of time reasonable and others will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristero Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Ya... can't wait to start farming nightmare operations to get the tionese commendations to balance out the ratio of tionese commendations to tionese crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiquendinenar Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Ya... can't wait to start farming nightmare operations to get the tionese commendations to balance out the ratio of tionese commendations to tionese crystals. Clearly he meant Normal Mode ops for tionese commendations. Use context and your prior knowledge to solve this riddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbowsin Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I felt the same as you until I started doing Operations. Now I can see the full system and what they might have been hoping to do with it. Normal mode Ops bosses drop the extra tionese commendations that you were looking for in HM FPs without as many crystals. To me, after having cleared normal and hard mode EV and KP, I can see how Bioware made this system to help raiders fill in gaps when RNG loot drops keep missing your class. I'd say you are right. I spent more time in first week as a new 50 doing normal Ops than doing HM FPs. Recently purchased a tionese piece to replace an orange gear I was using. Currently have fewer Crystals and Comms to buy another. I cannot relate to people who have a large amount of Crystals and few to no Comms to buy one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluo Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 They are called Companion Crystals sir /facepalm But in all seriousness they are for people who are horribly casual gamers. Anybody who is active on a daily bases will bypass these for Columi gear. Just use them to gear out your companions for now, then gear them out in T2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirosusan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I buyed my MH weapon since the damned Kaon boss and HK wouldn't drop it in XX runs. Karagga wasn't nice too me yet, so, it's what I stick with, although, the pvp weapon would be nice too (Jugg tank). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaydul Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've been trying to figure this out and can't really seem to come up with a good answer. Why do Tionese Crystals exist? At first I thought it was to limit your buying power of the Tionese gear, but you will always have more crystals than commendations, due to how frequently they drop in hard modes. I honestly have no idea why they are even in the game, and why they couldn't just make each boss drop one commendation, and adjust the price of gear accordingly. Has Bioware ever commented on this, or does anyone have a theory as to why they exist? look, bioware is retarded and doesn't really understand how MMOs work. they were just like "put in random loot systems and it'll be fine" just like the bag system, the tionese **** is *********** retarded...just like the bioware staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuangTzu Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Funnily enough I (so far) have always had more commendations than crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Malice Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 As far as I could figure it was to gear up your companions because by the time you can buy something for yourself with Tionese crystals you got a full set of columi gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmeseReb Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've got 80 commendations and only 47 crystals... I'm 3/5 rakata 2/5 columi. all i did with them is buy the tank gear for my companion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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