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Euphrosyne
11.27.2019 , 10:48 AM | #9781
I am a strong advocate of being respectful of fellow players' time, and usually that means finishing group content as quickly as reasonably possible. I don't have a problem with people who try to go through content very quickly, and am happy to help facilitate that.

I do have a problem with people who do that poorly.

If you, as the tank, are chainpulling and dragging low-health enemies from one fight to the next, you are significantly lengthening the time it takes to complete content because you're forcing everybody else to move more slowly - the difference between sprint and combat speed (without even getting into the whole rocket boots thing) - to try to catch up. Some classes enjoy the combat speed boosts that PT/VG and Assassin/Shadow do; some do not. It makes no sense to play as if everybody has the mobility of a Sage if your group is full of Guardians and Gunslingers.

Similarly, if you as the tank are moving bosses around more quickly than your dps can move, you are reducing uptime even for good-quality dps. Reducing uptime makes fights slower, not faster.

And if you are so desperate to skip enemies that you end up falling off a cliff or repeatedly fail to make a jump, and therefore end up taking more time to skip than to kill them, then you should probably reexamine your priorities.
Euphrosynē (n., Greek) - "mirth, merriment"

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Gelious
11.27.2019 , 11:47 AM | #9782
Well that was a fun Veteran Athiss...

Group includes 75 level merc (me), 75 level sin, 70 level Sorc and a 40 level jug.

Assassin declares he has arheology. Except when we get to the door, he says "Crap, I forgot" and they all run back for the bomb. Guess he confused his toons or something?

We move onwards, sin CCing mobs on the way and getting annoyed when someone breaks his CC. No biggie, right? We kill 2 boss and enter the tomb. We manage skip first room or so, but then someone pulls something, we wipe. "I have no words" declares Sin and drops the group.

Well, that sucks, now we have to kill mobs one by one. Me and jugg fine with it, but Sorc decides to do some skipping himself, and runs forward, while we stand and wait for 2 moving mobs ahead of us.

He fails and is in combat now. I cc one mob and me and jugg attack another. Jugg dies, I kill the mob, meanwhile Sorc dies and the mob attacking him comes to us. Plus the mob that I cc'ed eventually is freed as time passes.

Last man standing, I manage to combat res Jugg, CC the mob again, and we kill the one that came to us, then the one I CCed.

Then Sorc askes for a res. This proves to be last straw to me. I explain to him in no uncertain terms where he and his request should go after he nearly wiped us. Sorc drops the group. Me and jugg pull out our companions and 2-man the final boss. I thank Jugg for not leaving.
"They will not! I command them to know fear! To raise me to my throne! They can not!" - Soa. The Red Eclipse:
Gelious - Sith Marauder; Xatras - Jedi Guardian; Xatra - Commando; Helimana - Mercenary; Nellios - Operative; Mellas - Sith Assassin.

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Gelious
11.28.2019 , 08:38 AM | #9783
Doing FP for Conquest on my Operative, get a pop for random Tactical, 4 dps 75 lvl. Should be fine, right?

Except it turns out to be Meridian. and by the time I load inside half of the group is gone. quit without saying a word. I can only assume it is some kind of karma, because earlier I instantly dropped Kuat

However I have nothing against Meridian, so me and last remaining member (Ligning Sorc I assume, who never done it before by his own admission), 2-man the entire thing including bonus with no problems whatsoever.
"They will not! I command them to know fear! To raise me to my throne! They can not!" - Soa. The Red Eclipse:
Gelious - Sith Marauder; Xatras - Jedi Guardian; Xatra - Commando; Helimana - Mercenary; Nellios - Operative; Mellas - Sith Assassin.

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DeannaVoyager
11.28.2019 , 12:23 PM | #9784
Quote: Originally Posted by Gelious View Post
Doing FP for Conquest on my Operative, get a pop for random Tactical, 4 dps 75 lvl. Should be fine, right?

Except it turns out to be Meridian. and by the time I load inside half of the group is gone. quit without saying a word. I can only assume it is some kind of karma, because earlier I instantly dropped Kuat

However I have nothing against Meridian, so me and last remaining member (Ligning Sorc I assume, who never done it before by his own admission), 2-man the entire thing including bonus with no problems whatsoever.
The other day my premade group accidentally q'd for MM Meridian without a tank, and level 73 healer. We had 2 dwt though, and we swapped tanking based on whoever had more cooldowns left. It wasn't as easy as it would have been with a tank and a level 75 healer, but it wasn't that bad either. More like interesting. And now we know it can be done with dwt for sure, at least if the healer knows what they are doing.

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FlameYOL
11.29.2019 , 09:55 AM | #9785
Just had one of the worst Cademimu runs one could possibly ever have. The issue started with the first boss, both of our DPS screwed up the mechanics, a ranged one stood within the red circle while the melee didn't even attempt to run away from the bot... the ranged DPS also kept attacking the officer instead of the bot and was insistent that the bot would die in Master Mode. I explained it to him that this wasn't the case but he kept going on about how it was and how he had done this before multiple times, apparently he has been here since beta, tries to start a dick measuring contest by betting that if the officer dies first the bot will also die but I refuse because by that point we had already wiped twice due to people standing in stupid. After that we finally get the first boss, second boss has no issue... but then comes the bonus boss and the healer is simply unable to keep us up, it doesn't help our melee DPS made little to no effort in running away from the AOE. After wiping three or four times we decided to keep going with the Flashpoint as we would be unable to defeat the bonus boss with our current HPS. On the last boss the whole thing falls apart, the healer ran into the fire the first time, only me and the ranged DPS (Credit where credit is he and I might've had disagreements in the beginning but we were the only people who knew what they were doing) seemed to use our CC breaks, the melee DPS didn't attempt to break free from what I've seen or help anybody who was under shackles. Anyway the healer kept running into the fire or not running away from it fast enough, melee DPS also stood in stupid several times and after 4 tries I just straight up quit after dying, while the only person still alive was the ranged DPS. You'd think you'd have a smooth run with Cademimu.
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Ayushman
12.01.2019 , 05:03 AM | #9786
Heh... the amount of sheer *no-brainer* presence is astounding in MM currently.
1. They rush ahead and dies.
2. They dont kill adds and adds kill them.
3. They screw up mechanics and wipes the party.
4. They claim others are noob!
5. They cant taunt as a tank, cant heal much as healer and do dps like facerolling the keyboard.

and more problems arise when they go to gear grind... namely MM RR stealth runs...
Recent notable one for me. Me as Op along with Three sin.
I tank all three boss cause no matter who starts the fight, I tank it
Aggroes the mob even as stealth wasting vanish for everyone.
Wipe to Ikoral about 3 times cause they do abysmal dps and boss enrages!!!
Finally, Someone calls me noob and starts a vote kick! reason: NOOB! Me?!
I immidietly leave group saying m8 learn to taunt as a dwt first.
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AbsolutGrndZero
12.01.2019 , 01:21 PM | #9787
Quote: Originally Posted by midianlord View Post
That would be a little less infuriating if this game didn't have that stupid "Enter combat, waddle along at like half your normal speed" BS.

Why is this even a thing anymore in 2019? I always hated it in games that have it, and it seems many, if not most WoW-clones do. (Um, guys? 2005 called --It wants its archaic and useless mechanics back.)
OMG Yes I know I hate that too... and it's even worse on mounts... Oh this guy is shooting at me? OH OH LET ME SLOW DOWN SO HE CAN HIT ME BETTER...
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Gelious
12.01.2019 , 02:10 PM | #9788
Hey, healers! What's your professional opinion regarding Battle of Rishi HM last boss? Is it really hard to heal?

We had a merc healer who either kept dying himself (and claiming his dcd don't work), or wasn't able to keep tank up. That happened every time adds showed up (and no, we didnt ignore them or anything)

After 10+ pulls, healer got fed up with it and left. We got a replacement, an operative, and downed the boss on 2 try.
"They will not! I command them to know fear! To raise me to my throne! They can not!" - Soa. The Red Eclipse:
Gelious - Sith Marauder; Xatras - Jedi Guardian; Xatra - Commando; Helimana - Mercenary; Nellios - Operative; Mellas - Sith Assassin.

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rantboi
12.01.2019 , 02:20 PM | #9789
Quote: Originally Posted by Gelious View Post
Hey, healers! What's your professional opinion regarding Battle of Rishi HM last boss? Is it really hard to heal?

We had a merc healer who either kept dying himself (and claiming his dcd don't work), or wasn't able to keep tank up. That happened every time adds showed up (and no, we didnt ignore them or anything)

After 10+ pulls, healer got fed up with it and left. We got a replacement, an operative, and downed the boss on 2 try.
it's not hard and even if people are being noobs and not killing the adds fast enough you can cc them, knock them off the platform or use the consoles to los them

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Iffyluse
12.02.2019 , 12:22 AM | #9790
Quote: Originally Posted by Gelious View Post
Hey, healers! What's your professional opinion regarding Battle of Rishi HM last boss? Is it really hard to heal?

We had a merc healer who either kept dying himself (and claiming his dcd don't work), or wasn't able to keep tank up. That happened every time adds showed up (and no, we didnt ignore them or anything)

After 10+ pulls, healer got fed up with it and left. We got a replacement, an operative, and downed the boss on 2 try.
merc healer here, that flashpoint is no problem whatsoever, especially since it doesn't scale you down. If other players handle the adds properly it's easy.