Labradoraki Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple question, just has better defenses, has force push, cc immunity, high damage abilties, ranged lightsabebr throw and the marauder has????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craxxus Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple question, just has better defenses, has force push, cc immunity, high damage abilties, ranged lightsabebr throw and the marauder has????? Marauder has a glass jaw! least mine does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Marauder has a glass jaw! least mine does glass jaws dont look beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urcoconuts Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple question, just has better defenses, has force push, cc immunity, high damage abilties, ranged lightsabebr throw and the marauder has????? self healing with bleeds, better damage output than juggs. caster class killer. marauders are lacking in the survivability department other than abilities with long cooldowns and/or higher dps and bleed healing ramp up times. two lightsabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory-IRL-Bria Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Self Healing Much much better DPS Cloak Completely destroys caster classes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyrosso Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Dont know....i want to be a jugg Got confused by the 2 LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Juggs, minus their super high Smash, are pretty ineffective in PvP (1v1). They are relatively squishy and without a team will die to most classes. Maras can hold their own and come out on top in most 1v1 situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodrin Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Funny. There was just another thread arguing the opposite side of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikiru Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) The lvl 50 pvp armor has a hood. Edited February 9, 2012 by Shikiru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory-IRL-Bria Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Juggs, minus their super high Smash, are pretty ineffective in PvP (1v1). They are relatively squishy and without a team will die to most classes. Maras can hold their own and come out on top in most 1v1 situations. That depends on if its a Smash Jug or Immortal Jug. An Immortal Jug/Defense Guardian will give you hell in 1v1, Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoshist Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Mars/Sents are better off in the defensive cool down department that Juggs/Guardians are. I'm not arguing one way or another, but Sents have more ways to keep themselves alive than Guards do. Guardians have more ways to keep others alive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krytycal Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Undying Rage > Juggernaught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowingzero Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 "High damage abilities" is completely ambiguous, you can say that about any class. Sentinels included. Particularly since a Guardians biggest hitter, Focus-specced Force Sweep, is in our shared tree so Sents can get it just as easily. And I have a CC Immunity? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindianajones Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple question, just has better defenses, has force push, cc immunity, high damage abilties, ranged lightsabebr throw and the marauder has????? Face-melting awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory-IRL-Bria Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 "High damage abilities" is completely ambiguous, you can say that about any class. Sentinels included. Particularly since a Guardians biggest hitter, Focus-specced Force Sweep, is in our shared tree so Sents can get it just as easily. And I have a CC Immunity? Where? Up the vigil tree. "Unremitting" Gives you a CC immunity bubble every time you leap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowingzero Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Up the vigil tree. "Unremitting" Gives you a CC immunity bubble every time you leap That requires either speccing Vigilance for PvP, which is terrible, or skipping Force Exhaustion in Focus, which is also terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 That depends on if its a Smash Jug or Immortal Jug. An Immortal Jug/Defense Guardian will give you hell in 1v1, Trust me. I play a Pyro Powertech =/ So I may not be the best to comment in 1v1 Situations against other classes. Heh... Since usually my battles end relatively quickly. Maras last a bit longer due to their immunity shield though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory-IRL-Bria Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) That requires either speccing Vigilance for PvP, which is terrible, or skipping Force Exhaustion in Focus, which is also terrible. Oh how much potential you are ignorant of my dear sir. The only class i have trouble beating is Pure Healers because i cant deal out enough damage to keep up with the heals. Other than that i can beat anyone in a 1v1 9/10 times. Here's the kicker, I dont have a single point in Focus. Edited February 9, 2012 by Gregory-IRL-Bria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNethus Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The lvl 50 pvp armor has a hood. ^This. Seriously... The gear had a hood in Beta... Then it was removed. Yet, somehow we're supposed to believe that making the hood show is some massively difficult thing to program? I call BS, Devs! Pretty please? Gimme my hood back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revanmug Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 That depends on if its a Smash Jug or Immortal Jug. An Immortal Jug/Defense Guardian will give you hell in 1v1, Trust me. the tanking spec... give you hell... 1vs1?! ... Are you some shadow spec or a combat sent (the worse spec of sent)?! Because the soo mighty defense of a tank is ignore by most attacks except weapon based attacks which harm mostly the 2 spec above. Them chaining cds every 3min to last longer doesn't make more of a threat... Just an annoyance that you keep on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzlum Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 If you think a Jugg is SO much better than a Mar then you simply have not played both classes to 50. There is no other explanation. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory-IRL-Bria Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 the tanking spec... give you hell... 1vs1?! ... Are you some shadow spec or a combat sent (the worse spec of sent)?! Because the soo mighty defense of a tank is ignore by most attacks except weapon based attacks which harm mostly the 2 spec above. Them chaining cds every 3min to last longer doesn't make more of a threat... Just an annoyance that you keep on the side. Did you really Just ask me what class and spec i play when its in my sig? Whats up Ray Charles, i thought you were dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarthorn Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 That requires either speccing Vigilance for PvP, which is terrible, or skipping Force Exhaustion in Focus, which is also terrible. I do okay for myself with my Vigil/Def Guard, if geared in the Vindicator set.... Saber Throw > Leap > Sunder > Overhead Slash > Blade Storm > Stasis > Sunder > Push > Leap > Overhead Slash > Blade Storm > Sunder > Master strike > Overhead Slash > Despatch. Takes a lot less to set up, pumps out a much more consistent form of dps than Focus bombing, much much easier to manage Focus generation, not to mention you get to really abuse that Unremitting now thanks to force push resetting leap. Vindicator also increases your damage by 10% after leaps, very painful experience inc XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicuspid Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Oh how much potential you are ignorant of my dear sir. The only class i have trouble beating is Pure Healers because i cant deal out enough damage to keep up with the heals. Other than that i can beat anyone in a 1v1 9/10 times. Here's the kicker, I dont have a single point in Focus. 31 points in focus and i can beat everyone including healers, theres the kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptorchid Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Marauder has Bleeds (DoTs are EXTREMELY useful in PvP) that heal them, the best group buffs in the game, and WAY better resource generation/management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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