chosonman Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) edit: I actually would like to change my request. Please add more Role Play content to PVP and remove Ranked all together. Edited June 27, 2014 by chosonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizurappa Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) This game wasn't even designed with the 4s meta in mind. It's made weaknesses of certain classes/specs more noticeable and made class balance in general plain bad, so what makes you think SWTOR would be remotely balanced for anything lower than that?? Edited June 26, 2014 by Mizurappa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosonman Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) This game wasn't even designed with the 4s meta in mind. It's made weaknesses of certain classes/specs more noticeable and made class balance in general plain bad, so what makes you think SWTOR would be remotely balanced for anything lower than that?? It'll be a hell lot more balanced than 4v4 solo. And besides even if it's not 100% class balanced good players will still outshine bad ones and we won't have to worry about QQ because your teamate sucks. Bio could always role patches every couple of months to change balance and keep the game interesting. In anycase 4v4 solo is a bad idea. Edited June 26, 2014 by chosonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brutall Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 i would like a 1v1 type of ranked for pure fun. but plz dont balance it after it. it will **** upp 4v4 even more or they can give us duel tracker that shows wins loses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordorian Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Please bring 1v1 solo ranked and balance classes accordingly. It will make the game a lot more fun to play. Signed And 1 man nightmare ops as well plz.... Srsly, if you want a 1v1 you can duel people. If you want a ranking make duel tournaments, with rewards and everything. 1v1 solo ranked doesnt fit the idea of an MMO and it has absolutely to do with competitive pvp. You want balance around that? How? I mean like give every one a heal2full, stealth, auto crit burst and tons of cc or the opposite of that? The only way to balance for 1v1 is make everysingle AC exactly the same. As it is now some classes are really good at 1v1s (vengeance and tank juggs, operative healers, concealment, all assassin specs, madness sorc) , some are mediocre (don't know maybe anni on a marauder now) and others are not usuable unless incompetent opposition. And heck it is intended, since different classes have diffferent roles to fulfill in pvp combat. Snipers and Lightning sorcs don't usually want 1v1 situations, but excelle bursting stuff down for a wisely chosen position. AP PTs can do some sick melee aoe damage so they are best to be found in the mid of battle against multiple opponents and so on. MMOs are social games, you are meant to group up with other people to achieve your goal. A social game, should balance around group content. btw 2v2 arenas in another game you can play atm, is not really that great it either, no meta just derb and you still largely depend and who you get queue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMyMa Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Please bring 1v1 solo ranked and balance classes accordingly. It will make the game a lot more fun to play. Signed Nope, I didn't expect this to come from the guy that complains about sentinels being UP. Nope, not at all Not signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlightlySychotic Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Please bring 1v1 solo ranked and balance classes accordingly. It will make the game a lot more fun to play. Signed The problem there is that A) there exists a thing called "counterclass" and certain classes/builds will defeat another class/build 85% of the time due to design alone, and B) there are certain classes/builds more adept at solo fighting (and their already becoming the favorites for four mans). You try to "balance" that and it suddenly makes the rest of the game less fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatters Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopijkee Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 vanish > sap > heal - rank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDraxter Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Please bring 1v1 solo ranked and balance classes accordingly. It will make the game a lot more fun to play. Signed Let me guess ur main is a shadow or guardian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangrar Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 no, many of the classes are made for teamwork more than anything, what is a healer without a team, a tank without someone to guard and people to taunt for damage reduction, and a dps, well that kind of fits the 1v1 thing perfectly but healers and tanks are both more team oriented roles more than anything, not saying they can't do well in a 1v1 fight but to balance for all of pvp which is mainly teamwork around 1v1's would not be that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekish Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Dear Bioware... make 1vs1 solo ranked and btw I think Paper is a boring set up and i suspect they cheat most of the time... please don't allow them in. signed The Rock Edited June 26, 2014 by Pekish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunayson Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 While it's true that 1v1 will alleviate any "my team sucks" qq, it will certainly show class balance issues. everybody would just play deception and concealment, anyways. that's not fun. I liked the setup for pvp at the gree event. It was kind of 1v1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosonman Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 I updated my original topic to include details about 1v1 objective base role play scenarios using maps and objectives to help balance play. And to say further that Ranks should be as they are now based on individual's performance within their class and not cross classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatters Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I lol'd some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightkin Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 You see tons of content update since people left this game? No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windogie Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 You could make it so you only get pops against your own advanced class. That would be great for inflating your epeen. Farming people of the exact same AC and calling them bad if they lost to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunner_Venda Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Oh hell yes, the nerfs required for deception sins and pyro powertechs alone would make it all worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunayson Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Oh hell yes, the nerfs required for deception sins and pyro powertechs alone would make it all worthwhile. I don't know a whole lot about Pyro, but hell yes to any Deception nerfs. Anytime I bring anything other than Deception to a match I feel like I'm severely gimping myself and my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) ''balance 1v1''....yeah good luck with that. They can't possibly make every class 1v1 balanced in a game that couldn't be less 1v1 oriented. The skill gap in a 1v1 is EVEN HIGHER than it is a 4v4. Because there is LITERALLY not a single other person to backpack or help hide how bad you are doing. It's all on you. The crying would be epic. Especially on classes like Sage/Sorc, and Commando/Merc. At the moment, the 1v1 rated queue would look like this: 75% Assassins 10% Vengeance Jugs 10% Powertechs 5% Other That said, I *DO* think they should make areas dedicated to dueling and group/team dueling so that players can make their own content and fun in their free time. But while i personally wouldn't mind 1v1 solo rateds, as I enjoy 1v1s, I think it would be a horrible idea for the devs to implement because of the MAAAASSSIVE crying and balance issues that would ensue. sorry. Edited June 27, 2014 by SOULCASTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Signed. Would love 1 v 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undiess Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 where are all these 1v1 threads coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 where are all these 1v1 threads coming from? From people who don't like real pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raazmir Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 From people who don't like real pvp Or from people who are so certain they're good at pvp but just cant manage the coordination of control abilities and focus of mind for 8v8 nor the coordination of targeting for 4v4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMyMa Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Or from people who are so certain they're good at pvp but just cant manage the coordination of control abilities and focus of mind for 8v8 nor the coordination of targeting for 4v4. 4v4 coordination isn't really hard at all... "Focus on the unguarded target/go for squishiest player/go for players that are about to die" simple. Of course, this is solo queue. In group it's more about hardswitching. But still. It's simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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