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Best relic combination for Gunnery PVE after 2.3

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Best relic combination for Gunnery PVE after 2.3

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DiabloPL
08.08.2013 , 04:09 PM | #1
Hi guys and girls

What do u think about relics for commando gunnery in pve. Which combination of relics is best out here, since using Matrix Cube is probably rather ineffective thing?

From what i know its bad idea to have two passive proc relics so probably best way is to have one clickable and one proc. And what about pvp relics from current pvp vendors, are they worth using in pve like elite war hero in back days?

Thanks

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Azdraik
08.08.2013 , 04:27 PM | #2
I am not sure what the best is but, I like the clicky power and proc power relic combo myself.

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XeroVeritas
08.09.2013 , 02:43 PM | #3
It has been pretty widely accepted that Underworld Relic of the Cerulean Nova and Underworld Relic of Serendipitous Assault are best in slot. The parses suggest that this is the best DPS gain available. It is also popular to have an Underworld Relic of Boundless Ages to throw on during burst phases for the extra gain. Toss on the clicky power, get the buff, throw on the proc power, and get the best of all three worlds. I forgo the latter option I am lazy and don't want to swap gear mid fight, but your mileage may vary.

There is a long discussion on the whole thing here. You will have to go to the last few pages for the discussion on Relics, but it is definitely worth the read as there is hardcore data to back up the assumptions. Not just a bunch of "I feel this or that".
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CommanderKeeva
08.10.2013 , 02:57 PM | #4
Like the guy above me pointed out, the highest possible DPS comes from the CN and SA proc relics, especially now that they don't interfere with each other.

However, I prefer using the Boundless Ages relic as it gives me more control over my DPS and an on-demand burst. It's somewhat of a DPS loss in a long run, but it's immensely helpful during quick burn phases.

So, UW SA is pretty much mandatory and UW SA/UW CN is up to your personal preference and playstyle.

EDIT: Also, how is it possible to swap gear mid-fight? I thought it was impossible to equip/de-equip any type of gear during combat.
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oaceen
08.10.2013 , 11:32 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by CommanderKeeva View Post
EDIT: Also, how is it possible to swap gear mid-fight? I thought it was impossible to equip/de-equip any type of gear during combat.
it's not.


the suggestion is, before battle begins, use BA relic, swap to SA relic, then start combat.
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ArchangelLBC
08.12.2013 , 12:20 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by XeroVeritas View Post
It has been pretty widely accepted that Underworld Relic of the Cerulean Nova and Underworld Relic of Serendipitous Assault are best in slot. The parses suggest that this is the best DPS gain available. It is also popular to have an Underworld Relic of Boundless Ages to throw on during burst phases for the extra gain. Toss on the clicky power, get the buff, throw on the proc power, and get the best of all three worlds. I forgo the latter option I am lazy and don't want to swap gear mid fight, but your mileage may vary.

There is a long discussion on the whole thing here. You will have to go to the last few pages for the discussion on Relics, but it is definitely worth the read as there is hardcore data to back up the assumptions. Not just a bunch of "I feel this or that".
It would seem your "widely accepted" knowledge is out of date. As far as I know, before 2.3, Boundless Ages/Serendipitous Assault was considered BiS period in terms of pure DPS. Judging by the last few pages of that thread, that is still the case.

I also have to agree that even if that wasn't the case, as I've pointed out several times, fights in this game are very rarely actually about your average DPS over the course of a 5-10 minute fight of continuous DPS and much more often about your ability to pump out high damage in a relatively short window. If the damage difference was hugely in favor of damage proc it would be different, but between our relatively low APM (compared to something like a watchman sentinel) lowering the proc rate and the high importance of burst phases in actual boss fights (off the top of my head, over half the current ops bosses have non-trivial burn phases, sometimes multiple ones, which are relatively make or break), I just can't recommend damage proc relics for commandos.
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Fatumastrum
08.12.2013 , 01:24 PM | #7
Was wondering since my Arkanian Relic of Serendipitous and my Conqueror Relic of Serendipitous both proc together now will Underworld and Arkanian ones proc together also. And was this intended for a pvp an pve relic of the same type to proc with each other.

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oaceen
08.12.2013 , 01:37 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Fatumastrum View Post
Was wondering since my Arkanian Relic of Serendipitous and my Conqueror Relic of Serendipitous both proc together now will Underworld and Arkanian ones proc together also. And was this intended for a pvp an pve relic of the same type to proc with each other.
are you sure that they proc together.

it is my understanding that they shouldn't anymore, but i haven't tested it out since the 'fix'
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Fatumastrum
08.12.2013 , 02:22 PM | #9
I'm positive. Was testing them out on my scoundrel healer and they both proc together all the time

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dipstik
08.14.2013 , 06:10 PM | #10
can i see a log please