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2.4 Class Changes


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cashogy_reborn
08.17.2013 , 12:04 AM | #11
Im getting ~5.4k crits on Assault Plastique against the WZ training dummy. Which is about a 15% increase to the initial burst.

Now for the DoT, it ticks 4 times over 12s still, and im getting ~500 damage per tick (~1k on a crit). So w/ no crit that is ~2k damage. With all crits, that is an extra ~4k damage.

So it now has a damage range of ~5k-10k, give or take (10k would require crits on everything, which is likely not going to happen)

I tested this w/ power/surge optimized PvP gear, and used a 2/8/36 spec. I had 815 bonus damage and 28.84% crit.



Personally, I would like to see AP have the DoT removed just because it increases the likelihood of it actually reaching its max damage potential. That way, either it crits or it doesnt. In its current state, you need 5 separate crit rolls in order to get the maximum damage out of it (the chances of which occuring are very slim).


Basically right now, my super-burst-combo of AP -> CB -> HIB can produce ~15-17k damage with lucky crits.
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Gyronamics
08.17.2013 , 02:06 AM | #12
AP-CB-HIB doesn't work as an opener unless you wait after throwing AP.

The changes did the following:

AP = total damage on an operations boss increased by ~11% without or ~12% with an armour debuff
IR = Bit more than 4% damage loss
PC = Bit more than 1% damage loss

Encouragement to use AP.

For reference AP now explodes for about the same amount as it did on the PTS before 2.0 went live.

However we are now 2-3 tiers of gear higher and a 5k crit or 5.5k crit if a SA relic is going isn't nearly as powerful anymore.

Lump sum > half burst half pathetic DoT dribble which became more useless now that IR can be reasonably used.

And for reference having AP with the total damage it does on the pts currently as a lump sum of kinetic/energy would be a 7k+ tooltip damage.

Bear in mind that is still inferior to the 5k+ tooltip damage on Demo Round because Assault has no armour pen. Demo round gains 25% more damage on top of all that too.

Anyway, the class does need something with a huge spike that can override healing and be an extreme threat to anyone trying to LOS while weak.
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metalfenix
08.17.2013 , 02:15 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by LordKantner View Post
1 energy cell!!!!!!!! Holy sith!!!!!!
Get out of my mind! how you dare to write exactly what I thought lol.

Seriously, a reduction of 1 energy cell??? I would prefer to augment 1 cell and do more damage. This will be fun, I use a lot the pulse cannon on my trooper healer (and flamethrower on my merc healer) when I solo fight.
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Aliensorigin
08.17.2013 , 06:59 AM | #14
And not 1 change to combat medic or sawbones scoundrel..... Flippin goodness *facepalm* sake
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cashogy_reborn
08.17.2013 , 09:23 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Gyronamics View Post
AP-CB-HIB doesn't work as an opener unless you wait after throwing AP.
I would have already applied a dot before doing that combo.


And just doing some thinking, but what is the point of Explosive Round in Assault now? There is already a >90% chance to proc PC w/ Hammershot, and IR now costs 16 ammo (which is what ER should be).
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Gyronamics
08.17.2013 , 04:59 PM | #16
Same thing it has been forever, an attack only used for objective interrupts.
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