Makade Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Have you noticed this trend on the forums lately? Casual players gush about how much they are enjoying the game whereas MMO veterans and hardcore players seem to be extremely dissatisfied. What are your thoughts? If you accept this premise, why do you think this might be the case? Is it possible Bioware is aware of this and are fine with it (ie, it was a financial decision)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inseeisyou Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 All I'm going to say is... E-SPORTS man.... E-SPORTS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I raid twice a week and do PvP nightly with my guild. I am enjoying this game a lot and am resubscribing. I would not trust these forums for an accurate view of the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderLlama-Con Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I usually play 4+ hours a night, even on work nights, and I love the game. Does this mean I am a hardcore player who enjoys the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battyone Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 All I'm going to say is... E-SPORTS man.... E-SPORTS... Is that you Artosis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissiurso Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm a MMO vet and partial hardcore gamer and I'm resubbing. Maybe it's cuz i'm a huge Star Wars fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khryn Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Call me casual then! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdrgn Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I am casual I guess, and a MMO veteran. I love the game so far, but it is because of the storyline and single player side. The MMO side has much to be said about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I think it's a bit of a stretch to dump people into those categories, but there does seem to be a noticeable trend among supposed long-time MMOers as being the most vocal of those who dislike certain features of the game. Edited January 17, 2012 by Dezzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Have you noticed this trend on the forums lately? Casual players gush about how much they are enjoying the game whereas MMO veterans and hardcore players seem to be extremely dissatisfied. What are your thoughts? If you accept this premise, why do you think this might be the case? Is it possible Bioware is aware of this and are fine with it (ie, it was a financial decision)? It's not hard to see why. The game is at it's best in Act 1. It starts to go downhill after that. Most casual players aren't out of Act 1 yet. Some of them never will be. Edited January 17, 2012 by Mannic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortwave Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 They are happy with it, dumbing down the game to get more subs. It's the same way in academia - school is so easy now, any idiot can get a degree. I would have loved to see some of these students in school before the 70s, just like I would have loved to see some of these gamers in vanilla wow ddo or eq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Have you noticed this trend on the forums lately? Casual players gush about how much they are enjoying the game whereas MMO veterans and hardcore players seem to be extremely dissatisfied. What are your thoughts? If you accept this premise, why do you think this might be the case? Is it possible Bioware is aware of this and are fine with it (ie, it was a financial decision)? Nope. You should see our guild. The hardcore and having a good time. Any thoughts? Yes, try not as hard to beat this BS horse to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidkjames Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Because every MMO company out there knows you can not possibly develop enough content to keep people playing that play a game over 40 hours a week. It is next to impossible to develop anything that isn't just pure grinding. That is why Blizzard has changed the direction of their game and are developing Titan as a casual based game that will be even more casual than WoW or SWTOR. They know it is impossible to compete with WoW in this department and you will see fewer and fewer games come out that are focused on hardcore types. It sucks for that segment of gamer but these companies go where the money is and that is with the casual type gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidhero Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You cannot have hardcore players quit. If they do, the former closest to hardcore of the casuals will become the new hardcores, repeating the cycle once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Sparagus Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I see where the OP is going here. SO if you like the game you are a casual player and you being pleased is due to your lack of experience. If you hate the game you are hardcore and you are the only people who count. My guess is the OP is in his mom's basement. (see two can play that game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCynic Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Im an MMO vet and Core gamer, Im not very happy with the game and changed my sub from a 6 month to a 1 month. I plan to stay though Feb, then see where things are in March. As of now I dont really see myself still playing by the summer, but if things improve Ill set my sub right back to the 6 month option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeche Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The first rule of MMO game design: Most of your players don't post on the forums, most of them don't even READ the forums. Trying to gauge any kind of data on what to do design wise from the forum is FUTILE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choboon Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Playing every single day, all equip is lvl 56, done all hardmodes, doing Ops, just past rank 30 in pvp. Still enjoying the game as i have done the first day. Cant wait to see the story on my twink unfold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosPeppers Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 im an mmo vet who plays swtor casually, your generalization OP left me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Have you noticed this trend on the forums lately? Casual players gush about how much they are enjoying the game whereas MMO veterans and hardcore players seem to be extremely dissatisfied. What are your thoughts? If you accept this premise, why do you think this might be the case? Is it possible Bioware is aware of this and are fine with it (ie, it was a financial decision)? Yeah pretty much; hardcore progression Raiding accounts for what maybe 1.5% of the entire market? Biowares future lies with the Casual Non-raider....they knew this long before TOR launched. What we are seeing is things playing out as planned. Edited January 17, 2012 by Jett-Rinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonasty Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Im semi hardcore but mostly causal and i might not resub due to the clunky combat feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeblesTV Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicWanderer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I'm casual because my wife would kill me if I started playing 3-5 hour raids three nights a week like I did in WoW, lol. ...and yes, I love SWTOR. Edited January 17, 2012 by AtomicWanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amiracle Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I am casual I guess, and a MMO veteran. I love the game so far, but it is because of the storyline and single player side. The MMO side has much to be said about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terro_Fett Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I am quite hardcore, or at least I believe myself to be. I am re-subbing cause this game is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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