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Depths of Manaan is Bugged

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Drew_Braxton
07.27.2016 , 10:12 AM | #111
The achievement is for completing the flashpoint not for killing the last boss so why isn't the achievement keyed to that? Seems like an easy fix for the team instead of having to figure out a workaround. This whole event is regurgitated content and it makes it worse when you have to waste your game time redoing flashpoint because of bugs.
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Jerba
07.27.2016 , 10:53 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey folks,

I can confirm that there is an issue with Depths of Manaan granting credit for the Dark vs. Light Achievement. As some of you in the thread have guessed, the issue is caused by the environmental fire killing the boss instead of your character. If that happens, the Achievement will not properly track that you have completed the Flashpoint.

The way to get around this is to ensure that your character doing damage is what kills the final boss. As long as this happens you will get credit for the Achievement.

Thanks everyone. I will pass on any updates as I have them.

-eric
Thanks for letting us know, but some players are confused because four objectives are missing from the Legendary achievement, including the HM FP objective. So right now, you don't even need to complete Manaan HM to get the Legendary level. Would be great to get a clarification on whether this will be fixed before Chapter 16 launches.
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07.27.2016 , 10:55 AM | #113 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
So how does this work for groups then Eric? People are reporting only one player getting credit...if that even. Is this being investigated as well?
Yeah we are looking into these reports as well. We suspect it is tied to the same issue. I will continue to pass on any updates that I receive.

Thanks!

-eric
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Amodin
07.27.2016 , 12:24 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
So how does this work for groups then Eric? People are reporting only one player getting credit...if that even. Is this being investigated as well?
***This is also a problem with Kaon! I ran this with my wife yesterday, and she was unable to get credit. We have to run it over again.***

Naturally, we don't have the fire problem to contend with, but there is certainly a problem with obtaining credit with this flashpoint. She keeps being told to talk to the droid outside of the instance entrance, but he just keeps sending her back through it.

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myrdinn
07.27.2016 , 12:52 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
So how does this work for groups then Eric? People are reporting only one player getting credit...if that even. Is this being investigated as well?
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Dak_fireraker
07.27.2016 , 03:54 PM | #116
just completed Depths of Manaan & my group killed the boss & he was not in the fire but no credit was given. is this something that once it is corrected the credit will be given retroactively for those that finished it already?
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RiVaN_
07.27.2016 , 04:30 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Yeah we are looking into these reports as well. We suspect it is tied to the same issue. I will continue to pass on any updates that I receive.

Thanks!

-eric
Why not key the completion of the FP with the cutscene at the end that way an entire group gets credit, not just whoever struck the killing blow?
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aerockyul
07.27.2016 , 10:44 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Yeah we are looking into these reports as well. We suspect it is tied to the same issue. I will continue to pass on any updates that I receive.

Thanks!

-eric
Eric,

TL;DR: please please please make this fix (if it happens) retroactive. It's ludicrous to expect we should all just run Depths of Manaan HM over and over hoping for the achievement pop. This isn't Black Talon.

Just completed this HM fp for the first time in order to get the DvL achievement. I'm sure you know this is one of the most difficult HM fps and it's not easy to find a pug that can complete it without rage-quitting at Ortuno, and add the difficulty of pugging HM fps in the first place due to lack of tanks/heals. Pugged into it tonight for the first time, and two of the four of us had done it before and did not get credit for the achievement in their previous runs. They (I now must say stupidly (but not on their part)) held out hope maybe this time would be different. We'd all heard of the "must kill outside of fire" nonsense, though that DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK!! I've killed it solo in fire and outside of fire. I killed it in fire for the tactical flashpoint achievement for the DvL event and GOT THE ACHIEVEMENT, though many people have done the same and not gotten it.

This pug I'm in tonight, we're lucky enough to get through Ortuno after a few wipes. That's fine. I can sense we're already going to do well thanks to that. We get to the final boss and don't wipe but we miss the timer twice by about ten seconds. We finally kill him the third time! It's done! We surface after the conversation and sure enough...NO ACHIEVEMENT, NO DvL EVENT ACHIEVEMENT. BUT IT TRIGGERED FOR THE CONQUEST OBJECTIVE!!!! How is it possible for the game to register in one way but not in two others, and how is it possible for so many people to kill it in fire and get it, and not kill it in fire and get it, and kill it in fire and NOT get it, and kill it outside of fire and NOT get it???

Look, I forgive a lot in this game, and I play it almost every day and have since launch. I shouldn't have been excited for the DvL event but after hitting a couple achievements I got hooked and became determined to see it through. The three things I worried about the most were crafting, the ops, and HM fps. Everything else was/is very doable. I don't dread ops and HM fps because of their difficulty per se, I dread trying to find a group (number 1, and sometimes impossible on pub side) that will also be able to finish it and not rage quit at the first sign of adversity (number 2), AND NOW, there's the dread that I will waste another evening waiting for a pug to form, go through one of the hardest fps in the game THAT I JUST ALREADY COMPLETED and have it not trigger again.

It might be easier for others to get into groups; I could certainly be more proactive and instead of hoping for GF to pop, spam fleet chat instead to get a group; but what is the point, no matter what I do and what anyone else does, if the achievement won't trigger?

All I ask, and I think all anyone would want more than anything, is this flashpoint gets retroactively counted for those that have done it within the DvL parameters.
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Isaee
07.28.2016 , 12:33 AM | #119
Hi people , i'm very sure no one want to hear this , but i ran Manaan HM yesterday as healer and it worked for me at the very first since since dvl started. Credit for completing was given !
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PlagaNerezza
07.28.2016 , 10:23 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Vhaegrant View Post
Did you make sure not to use any DoTs? I know gunslingers don't have many but it may be worth a shot.

Would like to see an official statement as this is a progress blocker for those that can't get it unlocked.

It's a shame there's no way of double checking but once you've unlocked it it's done.
It may just be a case of 5% chance of failing to register and you are in the hands of the RNGeni ! it's human nature to try and link cause and effect

However, I really think this needs to be fixed and if the underlying issue can not be sorted in a suitable timeframe the Flashpoint should be removed from the achievement list.
Yes and I screenprinted the kill outside fire with me delivering the killing shot. It doesn't work solo mode even outside fire. I suspect tactical 4 man might. HM this workaround was successful for me.
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