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Not quite most, somewhere between half and a third of the younger Jedi, which is why those jedi falling was so catastrophic, they lost nearly half of their future masters, who then turned on them, nearly wiping them out.

Still more than a handful though and many of their brightest went to join the war. So yea, as you said, they basically lost a generation of their best.

That's how I meant it (since I was the one to use the 10 to 1 figure first), it's overall not per fight, the variables are impossible to list, surprise, training, individual characteristics, but overall one sith would equate ten Mandaloreans. Some like Darth Marr could cut through thousands without even noticing (like him not suggesting him per say), others would fail to cut down even one. Plus the Sith are used to ordering troopers around, and pick up a surprising array of tactics (eventually, those that survive). And Sith assassins are at least the equal with ambushes and stealth, which could mean they would set up some very nasty traps.

 

Of course, the Mandaloreans would be doing very similar things, and they are among the best tacticians in the galaxy. But they really lack the numbers to stand even a chance, they wouldn't even have the numbers of the rebel alliance from the original trilogy (they have about a quarter of the numbers but better training I reckon).

 

Good points and I agree with most of them, though I still think anyone cutting through thousands is a bit over the top. Maybe during the course of a war, then yea.

 

I think in a more realistic scenario Jedi and Sith would be used for precision strikes against the enemy's command structure (example, a boarding party to wipe out the commanders of a fleet) rather than in front line battle. Cause otherwise there's too many factors (thousands shooting at you, explosions everywhere, etc) for 1 fighter to cut down thousands. But I guess anything is possible in Star Wars.

 

Plus they've got stuff like this :p:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121026095061/starwars/images/e/e9/BasiliskAssault.jpg

(Though I guess it's a different era now).

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Still more than a handful though and many of their brightest went to join the war. So yea, as you said, they basically lost a generation of their best.

 

 

Good points and I agree with most of them, though I still think anyone cutting through thousands is a bit over the top. Maybe during the course of a war, then yea.

 

I think in a more realistic scenario Jedi and Sith would be used for precision strikes against the enemy's command structure (example, a boarding party to wipe out the commanders of a fleet) rather than in front line battle. Cause otherwise there's too many factors (thousands shooting at you, explosions everywhere, etc) for 1 fighter to cut down thousands. But I guess anything is possible in Star Wars.

 

Plus they've got stuff like this :p:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121026095061/starwars/images/e/e9/BasiliskAssault.jpg

(Though I guess it's a different era now).

 

Well if they had things like those Basilisk's 300 years ago, then imagine what they have now. Cant beat that Mandalorian ingenuity.

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Well if they had things like those Basilisk's 300 years ago, then imagine what they have now. Cant beat that Mandalorian ingenuity.

Actually, I imagine they have much less. The clans were essentially scattered and broken, with the victors destroying most of their equipment. They've had 300 years to rebuild but most of that time has been spent as fragmented groups of mercenaries and bounty hunters.

 

They're portrayed more or less as pawns of the Sith Empire in TOR. At this point they're almost an extension of the Empire as they have no cause of their own to fight for (other than to follow Mandalore and help their 'allies'). Why the Mandalorians would think the Sith would be better in charge or offer them a real challenge once the galaxy is conquered, or why the Sith wouldn't turn on them eventually, no idea. (Though I enjoy playing a bounty hunter and would like to see the Mandalorians act more independently).

 

Also, all we see in the game now is this:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090704010609/starwars/images/0/0c/Mandalorian_Blockade.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149570/3521227-mandalore_and_his_followers_by_baail.png

http://swtor.junkiesnation.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2011/11/Raiders-on-the-Bridge.jpg

 

Compared to this:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081205035210/starwars/images/b/b5/Battle_of_Vanquo.jpg

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131019190151/starwars/images/a/a1/Mandalorians_invade_Vanquo.jpg

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061005150841/starwars/images/2/22/Mandalorians_for_wiki.JPG

http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/41834/_original

 

Even TOR makes the old Neo-Crusaders look cooler:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120614131936/starwars/images/a/a3/Mandalorians_Neo-Crusaders.jpg

 

Also, the new Mandalore sucks.

Mandalore then:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081205070926/starwars/images/3/35/Poscassus.JPG

Mandalore now:

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/yj85Vzf1iYE/maxresdefault.jpg

 

(Just a fun comparison. I'm totally just hating on the current Mandalorians. I still like them but I'm just not as impressed by their portrayal in TOR. So yea, totally biased).

 

Also, a bit off topic but isn't it odd that the Mandalores of this era just casually reveal their faces? Mandalore the Indomitable and Mandalore the Ultimate always had their masks on. Mandalore the Preserver also stopped showing his face once he became Mandalore.

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Also, a bit off topic but isn't it odd that the Mandalores of this era just casually reveal their faces? Mandalore the Indomitable and Mandalore the Ultimate always had their masks on.

 

Cause Taung Mandos > Later Mandos. :p Yes I'm biased too and think the Taung are the better Mandos and everyone else are just posers! THAT'S RIGHT I WENT THERE!

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Cause Taung Mandos > Later Mandos. :p Yes I'm biased too and think the Taung are the better Mandos and everyone else are just posers! THAT'S RIGHT I WENT THERE!
TAUNG MASTER RACE! Let us start a new crusade (and breeding program) to restore the Taung as rightful rulers of the galaxy!

 

In a parallel universe: http://good-wallpapers.com/pictures/5488/Aliens%20vs.%20Predator%20-%20Predator%20Imba.jpg

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TAUNG MASTER RACE! Let us start a new crusade (and breeding program) to restore the Taung as rightful rulers of the galaxy!

 

I wish...would have preferred the Taung still be around, would have made the Mandos a hell of a lot more unique and have a vastly different culture. Now it's just "Oh hey....here just do this, pass this and this and put this armor on and follow this way of life" anyone can join, kinda makes being a Mandalorian less special.

 

Also yes they are similar in appearance to the Yautja which is always a + lol.

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I wish...would have preferred the Taung still be around, would have made the Mandos a hell of a lot more unique and have a vastly different culture. Now it's just "Oh hey....here just do this, pass this and this and put this armor on and follow this way of life" anyone can join, kinda makes being a Mandalorian less special.

 

Also yes they are similar in appearance to the Yautja which is always a + lol.

 

I feel you. http://darthipedia.com/w/images/0/0f/Taung.jpg

 

Nah, I'm just kidding with the Predator pics. But yea, I do wish they were still around. This is one of my favorite Star Wars images:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130917231344/starwars/images/c/c1/Last_Stand_of_the_Taungs.jpg

The fact that it takes place on Coruscant... and how the Taung and Human cultures evolved so differently... wow.

 

Also, the idea that a badas* alien face is hiding behind a mask that easily fits a human face is... awesome. I also liked how the Mandalorian Wars was essentially a Taung guiding humans and numerous alien species to fight for glory in their name and culture.

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I wish...would have preferred the Taung still be around, would have made the Mandos a hell of a lot more unique and have a vastly different culture. Now it's just "Oh hey....here just do this, pass this and this and put this armor on and follow this way of life" anyone can join, kinda makes being a Mandalorian less special.

 

Also yes they are similar in appearance to the Yautja which is always a + lol.

 

Its settled then, we breed back the Taung race and appoint a new mandalore, someone who will have a cool title to their name like mandalore the ultimate had...

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If the Mandalorians where to unite as a race under 1 banner similar to the mandalorian wars in the kotor 1 era they would probably stand a fair chance against the empire, but i was under the impression that its just mostly scattered and broken clans now 300 years later in the lore. Edited by Rashenari
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As much as I would love to see that fight, when it comes right down to it, the Empire is willing to conduct a Base Delta Zero operation, as seen by the simple fact that every Imperial Agent has access to an orbital bombardment. That means that the Empire would win.

 

There is no question, they have more ships, more troops, and a willingness to bombard a planet, meaning that any mando's surface side would be annihilated. trying to board one of the Imperial navy warships would be difficult under the most ideal conditions, provided that your ship managed to avoid the fighter screen, as well as the point defense systems on the warships.

 

The mando's might have better trained troops, but in any conflict, it's always a numbers game, if I can bring more forces to bare on yours, I will win.

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As much as I would love to see that fight, when it comes right down to it, the Empire is willing to conduct a Base Delta Zero operation, as seen by the simple fact that every Imperial Agent has access to an orbital bombardment. That means that the Empire would win.

 

There is no question, they have more ships, more troops, and a willingness to bombard a planet, meaning that any mando's surface side would be annihilated. trying to board one of the Imperial navy warships would be difficult under the most ideal conditions, provided that your ship managed to avoid the fighter screen, as well as the point defense systems on the warships.

 

The mando's might have better trained troops, but in any conflict, it's always a numbers game, if I can bring more forces to bare on yours, I will win.

 

Not only this, but even if the average Mando is better then the average rank and file Imperial Trooper, not only does the Empire have numbers, but I'd also be willing to bet that special forces in the Empire would be ahead of most Mandos. Those being, aside from the already mentioned Sith, Imperial Agents, Black Ops, the Imperial Guard, and any other organization I may have forgotten to mention.

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