She has to die without a single shred of doubt. I don't care who does it, but it needs to be done. She and Malgus both were faces of their factions even before the game came out. There is no other option now when Malgus is dead.

Ridiculous answer. No good reason? How about the fact she is the Grand Master of the Jedi? Killing her (would, similar to 'killing' the Emperor) be a massive blow to the Republic, symbolic if anything. No, she isn't on the front lines, she is old and washed up. But then, so is the Emperor basically (just non-existent to the Empire).

I'd say the entire Empire would love to see that ***** dead

You are confusing her being a legitimate target in-universe with being a good reason from a narrative perspecitve. IF you are going to kill one of the faces of SWTOR, one of the few females as well, it has to be for a good narrative reason. 'A symbolic blow to the Republic' is a good reason for the Empire to target her, not a good reason for her to actually be killed.

 

She has to die without a single shred of doubt. I don't care who does it, but it needs to be done. She and Malgus both were faces of their factions even before the game came out. There is no other option now when Malgus is dead.

Malgus being killed (stupidly in my opinion) does not make a good or sufficient reason to kill off Satele Shan.

Sith Emperor is gonna be final boss for both sides in my opinion. This guy is a threat for the whole galaxy. So I see no reason for her to be killed because of JK storyline.

 

BTW beware of spoiler. forgot to wrap and dont feel like doin it now....

 

i slightyly disaggree with that tho its certainly possible. the reason being this... as the SW u r given alot of options to choose ur side. u couldve been a total jerk to baras or be the perfect apprentice (as i was) and the same goes for ur position as wrath except the emperor actual respects u cuz ur literally his sword. if anything i think the SW will allign himself with the emperor. wheter or not he follows thru would be the darkside lightside choice. but at this time he'd go thru the immortality ritual so his future would already be cemented. and i think the emp will eventually realise wiping out all life would be foolish. the SW literally has the potential to become the next emp. he's literallly only one step away from that goal. if he wanted to pursue it. hes beaten the voice once. (as has the jedi) and that wasnt even his final quest . imo the SW could become the strongest person in the galaxy of this era. now how that actually modern timeline who knows cuz we all know the sith eventually fall... but we have like a 1000 years before we even have to worry bout that. but back to the OP i wanna kill satele... but not yet. it needs to culminate into an epic event. where even better its a FP (or story quest) where her and Revan team up and she ends up dying protecting her ancestor or son. theres lots of options. but i do think the death of satele would be a great plot point in the game and have a huge win for the emp finally.... end of makeb def showed something big was coming. or hell Marr assassinating satele would be EPIC. idk.... i have lits of ideas and theories but im sure many others do as well.

She's bloody annoying I'd love to take her head off.

In most Star Wars lore they don't seem to kill off a Jedi Grand Master until someone powerful enough to take their place comes along. The only way I see her dying is sacrificing herself to 'save the republic' either directly or indirectly by saving the person who will be her successor.

Not every signature character HAS to die - It's not WoW kids.

And if you want to mirror things, pick Darth Malgus - he's a much closer equal to Satele, both are the faces of SW:ToR, both got Holo-statues, both give you Flashpoint quests throughout the game.

How about the fact she is the Grand Master of the Jedi? Killing her (would, similar to 'killing' the Emperor) be a massive blow to the Republic, symbolic if anything. No, she isn't on the front lines, she is old and washed up. But then, so is the Emperor basically (just non-existent to the Empire).

 

Technically doesn't make her equal to the Emperor, the Jedi don't run things - the Supreme Chancelor (and the Senate) do.

 

 

Edited April 23, 2013 by Callaron

In most Star Wars lore they don't seem to kill off a Jedi Grand Master until someone powerful enough to take their place comes along. The only way I see her dying is sacrificing herself to 'save the republic' either directly or indirectly by saving the person who will be her successor.

I hope BW avoid that particular cliche as well.

Well no matter if she dies or not, I'd like to at least meet her face to face as Empire player.

As long as a Light side SW can avoid it, I don't mind if the option is given to dark siders. Edited April 24, 2013 by Gurluas

She has to die without a single shred of doubt. I don't care who does it, but it needs to be done. She and Malgus both were faces of their factions even before the game came out. There is no other option now when Malgus is dead.

 

The Empire has many more prominent characters than the Republic does though.

 

If you kill off Satele who then of the Republic NPCs would you give a **** about? She's really all they have in terms of well known, or well established characters. The only other character they have is Malcolm and they don't even feature him that much in the game, and they didn't even put the Smuggler from the opening in the game either.

 

The Republic is very boring compared to the Empire. I know that's somewhat intentional, but it seems like they (Bioware) could do alot more with it than they did.

 

In most Star Wars lore they don't seem to kill off a Jedi Grand Master until someone powerful enough to take their place comes along. The only way I see her dying is sacrificing herself to 'save the republic' either directly or indirectly by saving the person who will be her successor.

 

Yeah, and as it stands now they don't have anyone.

 

The Empire has Darth Marr who seems to have taken on the role of Malgus + The Emperor, ie top of the food chain, giving orders, etc. It's like the Empire really traded up on that one because in-game he at least seems like a much more interesting character than either Malgus or The Emperor. Note I'm talking purely from an in-game stand point, not the comics or anything like that.

I'd like to see them kill off Satele as a final boss in a future flashpoint. Think about her ancestor, Bastila. She fell to the Dark Side, and I think Satele could too. There's a lot of talk about the shift in favor of the Empire after Makeb. What if, when the Emperor does finally return, his victory is sealed by corrupting and turning the Grand Master of the Jedi Order. This way, the flashpoint could be open to both sides. The Republic goes in to eliminate their once great champion, and the Empire goes in to finish off the already corrupted champion, and deal a final crushing blow to the Republic. That way you have both Malgus and Satele gone, and the rest of the story can focus on eliminating the overall threat to the Galaxy...The Emperor himself.

Every Jedi has the potential to fall to darkness and just because the ancestor of one did fall doesn't mean the descendant is at higher risk, it is like saying that because your ancestor killed someone who are more likely to commit a murder.

It would actually be nice to kill someone really important from the Republic,but i don't see it happening as part of a class story.Satale can be killed in an Operation ,Flash Point or planetary main quest.

 

I can't see her falling to the Dark Side.If she was gonna do it,she would have done it by now.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Kaedusz

It would actually be nice to kill someone really important from the Republic,but i don't see it happening as part of a class story.Satale can be killed in an Operation ,Flash Point or planetary main quest.

 

I can't see her falling to the Dark Side.If she was gonna do it,she would have done it by now.

 

Supreme Chancellor isn't important?

 

As for killing someone important...JK. I haven't finished my Consular storyline, but from what I've gathered, only the JK kills anyone of importance Rep side.

Except the Emperor wasn't killed.

 

Saying that Satele should die because the Emperor died makes no sense considering it was only the Emperor's Voice that was killed.

 

Also it's quite clear that Satele's "mirror" has always been Malgas, not the Emperor.

 

Makeb seems to indicate he was killed canon-wise, but Satele isn't equivalent to the Emperor, in fact if she did get killed the effect would be negliable, she only leads the Jedi, and they aren't easily shaken.

 

The Bounty Hunter Kills the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic who is the Emperor's opposite, so the balance is maintained, in fact given that two of the Imperial character's try to kill it's kind of hypocritical to suggest they would need to avenge him.

Makeb seems to indicate he was killed canon-wise, but Satele isn't equivalent to the Emperor, in fact if she did get killed the effect would be negliable, she only leads the Jedi, and they aren't easily shaken.

 

The Bounty Hunter Kills the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic who is the Emperor's opposite, so the balance is maintained, in fact given that two of the Imperial character's try to kill it's kind of hypocritical to suggest they would need to avenge him.

Saying that Republic politician is equal in importance to Emperor is definitely not right. Chancellor can be replaced with very little effect on the Republic, which is not the case with the Emperor. Their are not each others opposite. Emperor is more like equal to chancellor + grand Jedi master in terms of importance to his faction.

Makeb seems to indicate he was killed canon-wise,

 

No, it wasn't.

Makeb seems to indicate what the Republic feels, concerning the ultimate fate of the Emperor, but Satele isn't equivalent to the Emperor, in fact if she did get killed the effect would be negliable, she only leads the Jedi, and they aren't easily shaken.

 

The Bounty Hunter Kills the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic who is the Emperor's opposite, so the balance is maintained, in fact given that two of the Imperial character's try to kill it's kind of hypocritical to suggest they would need to avenge him.

 

Fixed for accuracy.

Makeb seems to indicate he was killed canon-wise

 

No, Makeb flat out shows that the Republic believes the Emperor to be dead, however there are dialogue options with Darth Marr that indicate that the Emperor isn't dead, especially when playing as a Sith Warrior, who is one of the only characters post Chapter 3 that knows that the Emperor is still alive.

No, Makeb flat out shows that the Republic believes the Emperor to be dead, however there are dialogue options with Darth Marr that indicate that the Emperor isn't dead, especially when playing as a Sith Warrior, who is one of the only characters post Chapter 3 that knows that the Emperor is still alive.

 

I'm really getting tired of all the back and forth about the Emperor being dead or not. It's irrelevent. The big picture is that the Emperor is no longer a threat. That's all that matters, especially for the outcome of the current war.

I'm really getting tired of all the back and forth about the Emperor being dead or not. It's irrelevent. The big picture is that the Emperor is no longer a threat. That's all that matters, especially for the outcome of the current war.

 

Yeah I don't really know why it's been debated as much as it is on here. I don't understand why there's so much confusion and arguing about it.

 

I personally like that the Emperor is out of the picture. Darth Marr seems much more interesting. The Emperor only seems relevant in certain class stories, but outside of that there was basically nothing. He could've been more interesting or prominent as a faction figure the way Satele is, but he was severely under used.

Exactly. Darth Marr Spoilers below:

 

 

Let me romance Satele first before you off her .

Exactly. Darth Marr Spoilers below:

 

 

Marr is the only reason the Empire isn't defeated yet. His attempt to "defend" the Republic's broadcast about the Emperor's death is a subtle and brilliant one. Toborro talked about Isotope-5 bringing him to the same power level as the Architects (Gods or Titans in the SW universe). Marr sends in his best to find out the truth about Isotope-5, and then sends specialists to secretly stop the planet from being destroyed. This was all his idea. At the end of Makeb storyline, Darth Marr is zoomed out from his capital ship for good reason... He is now the most influencial and intelligent character the Empire has to offer. The worst part is that the Republic has no idea, either.

 

As a Republic character, I sense that Marr's prominence (once his character is more publicized to the Republic) may just be more epic than Darth Malgus'.

 

 

agreed as early as the TOR encyclopedia it was obvious Marr was being set up as the "new leader of the empire"