They talk to much they do not kill fast enough even if they can and sometimes lose because of that. For example Lycan managed to kill a entire casino in seconds with the force. Then he fought a mercenary but instead of finishing him fast he played with him and then he lost because a cave fell on him because that was a trap that he could have avoided if he killed him in seconds.

This pretty much what happens in cases when force sensitive lose to not like them. Why do they play so much?

Jedi try to save their enemies by turning them to the light or make them surrender peacefully (when non-force sensitive), because they never want to take the life of them.

Sith play with their enemies because it's the nature of the dark side to have an urge to feel more powerful than everyone. So they mock evreryon to show their superiority. Also they are ALWAYS overconfident, they never think they need to focus. Oh and they want to tempt the Jedi with the dark side.

These apply to any other light side/dark side force sensitive order's members.

Because Lycan wanted to thank Darca for giving his memory back, he was about to kill him before Darca set off the explosives which he planted hours earlier in advanced.

Did he not get his memories back after a fight that did not took seconds or probably did but did not end with Darca dead. Should he just not have blinked and killed him already not play with him then talk to him revel in his power then die like a chump.

By the way if there is someone that still think non force users can not use a lightsaber in combat Darca is proof that it is not true.

Did he not get his memories back after a fight that did not took seconds or probably did but did not end with Darca dead. Should he just not have blinked and killed him already not play with him then talk to him revel in his power then die like a chump.

By the way if there is someone that still think non force users can not use a lightsaber in combat Darca is proof that it is not true.

Lycan slowly regained his memories back, it was only until Darca actually explained why he was hunting Lycan(killing his son) that his memory was fully restored, who he was and so on. Which was then where he was about to kill Darca, before the explosives went off.

Majority of Non-Force Users can't use a lightsaber in the manner a Jedi or Sith or other Force User can. If you notice, Darca doesn't use complex slashes or maneuvers with the lightsaber he has that Force Users do.

Still it's impressive that he was able to hold out against Lycan's apprentice(Sardoth) when he was much older, although he didn't seem to be much of a match given he was still hit multiple times. In fact I'd say that Sardoth kind of toyed with him.

Now some Non-Force Users can wield it in such a manner, but their reflexes need to be high and of course extensive martial arts training. A better example is Prince Xizor, he's a master of multiple martial arts and has supersonic reaction speed.

Also this thread needs to be moved to Star Wars Discussion.

Lycan slowly regained his memories back, it was only until Darca actually explained why he was hunting Lycan(killing his son) that his memory was fully restored, who he was and so on. Which was then where he was about to kill Darca, before the explosives went off.

 

Majority of Non-Force Users can't use a lightsaber in the manner a Jedi or Sith or other Force User can. If you notice, Darca doesn't use complex slashes or maneuvers with the lightsaber he has that Force Users do.

 

Still it's impressive that he was able to hold out against Lycan's apprentice(Sardoth) when he was much older, although he didn't seem to be much of a match given he was still hit multiple times. In fact I'd say that Sardoth kind of toyed with him.

 

Now some Non-Force Users can wield it in such a manner, but their reflexes need to be high and of course extensive martial arts training. A better example is Prince Xizor, he's a master of multiple martial arts and has supersonic reaction speed.

 

Also this thread needs to be moved to Star Wars Discussion.

My point was why did he not kill him almost immediately like he did with that whole casino besides the dealer when he first met him not injure him and then hear him talk so his memory will be back? I mean really as far as he knew that was a mercenary that was hunting him why did he just not blinked and killed him?

My point was why did he not kill him almost immediately like he did with that whole casino besides the dealer when he first met him not injure him and then hear him talk so his memory will be back? I mean really as far as he knew that was a mercenary that was hunting him why did he just not blinked and killed him?

Your wording is confusing me.

Lycan didn't kill Darca because he needed him to regain his memories. He wanted to know who he was.

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That explains it really.

Your wording is confusing me.

 

Lycan didn't kill Darca because he needed him to regain his memories. He wanted to know who he was.

 

 

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That explains it really.

Oh so he was curious and did not kill him immediately.

Oh so he was curious and did not kill him immediately.

Right otherwise, Lycan could have killed Darca with 0 effort, he needed him to figure out who he once was.

Right otherwise, Lycan could have killed Darca with 0 effort, he needed him to figure out who he once was.

Things like this brings death to force users. Also this kinds of things the jedi should have done against Grevious that is the biggest bad writing there is. Now I do not know if most force users know the human anatomy to kill someone like Lycan probably they do not know where exactly the artery is so they can not do that. But you can always crush the heart of non force users or if that is hard rupture arteries.

Grevious should never have been such a good jedi killer he should not have had a chance. Now Durge I understand you must destroy every cell in his body to kill him but Grevious no way.

Things like this brings death to force users. Also this kinds of things the jedi should have done against Grevious that is the biggest bad writing there is. Now I do not know if most force users know the human anatomy to kill someone like Lycan probably they do not know where exactly the artery is so they can not do that. But you can always crush the heart of non force users or if that is hard rupture arteries.

Grevious should never have been such a good jedi killer he should not have had a chance. Now Durge I understand you must destroy every cell in his body to kill him but Grevious no way.

Jedi should know their anatomy well given that they are trained in revealing pain in their bodies and can flush out mind controlling drugs in their bloodstreams, kill diseases, nullify poisons and so on. That and their TK is at a molecular level, so targeting organs/arteries shouldn't be much a real issue for them.

Jedi won't abuse their powers in that manner though, hence why Grevious stands any kind of chance against the Jedi as they opt to use their lightsaber as opposed to Force abuse.

Even still, Grevious' speed is also an issue as he can be on the Force User before they have time to even do anything Force wise and force a lightsaber battle.

Jedi should know their anatomy well given that they are trained in revealing pain in their bodies and can flush out mind controlling drugs in their bloodstreams, kill diseases, nullify poisons and so on. That and their TK is at a molecular level, so targeting organs/arteries shouldn't be much a real issue for them.

 

Jedi won't abuse their powers in that manner though, hence why Grevious stands any kind of chance against the Jedi as they opt to use their lightsaber as opposed to Force abuse.

 

Even still, Grevious' speed is also an issue as he can be on the Force User before they have time to even do anything Force wise and force a lightsaber battle.

What Lycan did was instant I doubt Grevious is that fast I mean that was even faster then activating a lightsaber and going in your stance. Also lets be fair why would Ventress not crush his heart she is no jedi after all.

Now the problem is I know of what artery he speaks of but asking me the precise place I can not. Probably most jedi do not know that is not like they need to to do what you said also probably they need more focus the Lycan to do that as you noticed even very powerful in the force force users need some practice to use TK well look Luke Skywalker when he tried to lift his ship from the swamp we know he could do a lot more later. Or look at Revan when he was retrained he could barely lift a chair and later a lot more chairs.

I remember a event in Bh storyline we had to capture or kill a sith apprentice of a traitorous lord and before the battle began if you chose the right dialogue she said that a sith can only be defeated by another sith a lucky jedi or a bomb she is technically right but emotions really get in the way.

What Lycan did was instant I doubt Grevious is that fast I mean that was even faster then activating a lightsaber and going in your stance. Also lets be fair why would Ventress not crush his heart she is no jedi after all.

Now the problem is I know of what artery he speaks of but asking me the precise place I can not. Probably most jedi do not know that is not like they need to to do what you said also probably they need more focus the Lycan to do that as you noticed even very powerful in the force force users need some practice to use TK well look Luke Skywalker when he tried to lift his ship from the swamp we know he could do a lot more later. Or look at Revan when he was retrained he could barely lift a chair and later a lot more chairs.

Because morals also do come into play, plus Ventress is more open to using lightsabers than Force abuse as that is her own preference, not that she can't.

Most Jedi should know, if they have to flush drugs or disease out of their bodies, they'd have to know their anatomy or various anatomies if they have to help someone who needs medical treatment.

Luke by his training with Yoda, was just beginning so not really appicable to a fully trained fallen Jedi Knight Lycan.

Revan was getting retrained, and he seemed to have no problem lifting and floating 2 chairs while he himself was floating.

That being said I forgot Ventress was not trained to heal and Sith are usually trained to heal so they do not have to know anatomy to use what Lycan used. Neither was Darth Maul.

Wow Jedi can be very deadly if not for their morals. Lycan is the best examples of what a jedi can do if morals are not in play.

look at 8:34 on how he struggled with lifting a datapad or something of that kind.

That being said I forgot Ventress was not trained to heal and Sith are usually trained to heal so they do not have to know anatomy to use what Lycan used. Neither was Darth Maul.

Wow Jedi can be very deadly if not for their morals. Lycan is the best examples of what a jedi can do if morals are not in play.

Yeah cause Revan was just relearning on how to use it, later in that same video he's floating and floating around 2 chairs as if it's no big deal.

Also Maul could target organs too, so it's not just healing they can also use it for attack.

Also right, this is why a Non-Force User usually needs some kind of advantage. Weither it's gear based or prep or a combination of the 2. Said Non-Force User also needs to keep attacking to prevent the Dark Jedi to use their abilities against them. They can't let up in their attack, no defense.

Also Maul could target organs too, so it's not just healing they can also use it for attack.

Yes he could but I bet he could not do what Lycan did he probably did not knew about that artery. That thing is very very efficient. But he also had the problem of playing with his adversaries.

Was there ever a force user who had no emotion at all?

Yes he could but I bet he could not do what Lycan did he probably did not knew about that artery. That thing is very very efficient. But he also had the problem of playing with his adversaries.

Was there ever a force user who had no emotion at all?

Every human being has emotions. People aren't robots.

Every human being has emotions. People aren't robots.

Does not have to be human.

Does not have to be human.

Other sentient species have emotions too. Even ones who seem to be more logically based. Even so, there's a problem. When it comes to the dark side emotions FUEL it. If someone was a robot they would be a terrible dark side user. No emotions? No passion. No passion? Weakness. Likewise, the light side would be very incompatible with someone who truly didn't have emotions.

Other sentient species have emotions too. Even ones who seem to be more logically based. Even so, there's a problem. When it comes to the dark side emotions FUEL it. If someone was a robot they would be a terrible dark side user. No emotions? No passion. No passion? Weakness. Likewise, the light side would be very incompatible with someone who truly didn't have emotions.

There is no emotion, there is peace.

There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.

There is no passion, there is serenity.

There is no chaos, there is harmony.

There is no death, there is the Force

No emotion goes well with the jedi code.

There is no emotion, there is peace.

There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.

There is no passion, there is serenity.

There is no chaos, there is harmony.

There is no death, there is the Force

 

No emotion goes well with the jedi code.

The jedi code are guide lines and aren't literal enterpretation. Their line "There is no emotion, there is peace." is a guideline that tells the user not to let emotions rule them.

Jedi are also about compassion. You can't have compassion if you can't feel anything for anyone. Self sacrifice means nothing when it as well doesn't matter to you.

I can show you times where Jedi laughed, smiled, celebrated, cheered, cried, and even gotten angry (a good jedi doesn't allow that anger to consume them nor channel that anger through the force.) but Jedi are living beings and like all living beings are subject to emotions. The greatest Jedi the galaxy has ever seen have all displayed a wide range of emotions. Including master Yoda and Luke Skywalker.

The jedi code are guide lines and aren't literal enterpretation. Their line "There is no emotion, there is peace." is a guideline that tells the user not to let emotions rule them.

 

Jedi are also about compassion. You can't have compassion if you can't feel anything for anyone. Self sacrifice means nothing when it as well doesn't matter to you.

Yes but they also do not care about them so self sacrifice is no problem either. In the way of kings book if anyone knows of it there was a assassin who had powers way way way beyond what most people could do and he considered himself a tool and he did anything a keeper of a oathstone can order him to do anything which is killing pretty much most of the time. He does quite well.

When he was finally killed by someone with the same powers like him he was rewarded for his single mindless and how he ignored his emotions in battle.