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Monoth
07.12.2019 , 08:34 PM | #1
Dot classes seem to be tearing up the parses right now leaving behind all the non-dot spec's

unless your dot spec nobody wants you in their HM/NIM raids.... Is Bioware ever plan on balancing this? or do we all have to play dot spec's..
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ottffsse
07.13.2019 , 08:50 PM | #2
It has more to do with gear rating inflation rather than how specs work. Nowadays with the 248-especially 256 gear any dot spec can handle fight phases where previously an experienced raid leader would insist you play a good burst spec to get through a certain phase easier.
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taxidermis
07.25.2019 , 06:20 AM | #3
i find that as a dot class veng jugg has alwauys been desirable in raids
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Equeliber
07.25.2019 , 06:49 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by taxidermis View Post
i find that as a dot class veng jugg has alwauys been desirable in raids
Because Veng jugg is as far from a DoT class as a DoT class can be

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Syroe
07.25.2019 , 08:40 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
unless your dot spec nobody wants you in their HM/NIM raids.... Is Bioware ever plan on balancing this? or do we all have to play dot spec's..
Uhm. Wat?

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taxidermis
07.26.2019 , 05:14 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Equeliber View Post
Because Veng jugg is as far from a DoT class as a DoT class can be
how so? you have multiple bleeds, its great for stacking bleeds on boss then killing adds, while bleeds dot the boss. its also juggs only dot spec, rage is burst.
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UltraFlashStar
07.26.2019 , 05:35 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by taxidermis View Post
how so? you have multiple bleeds, its great for stacking bleeds on boss then killing adds, while bleeds dot the boss. its also juggs only dot spec, rage is burst.
Its probably because Vigil dots seems really weak when compared to other classes like Ruffi and Plasma. Guardians are good for their survivability but when compared to other classes in terms of DoTs they seem weak.

Either way it does matter since every spec is viable in an endgame scenario.
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Equeliber
07.26.2019 , 11:38 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by UltraFlashStar View Post
Its probably because Vigil dots seems really weak when compared to other classes like Ruffi and Plasma. Guardians are good for their survivability but when compared to other classes in terms of DoTs they seem weak.

Either way it does matter since every spec is viable in an endgame scenario.
You make it sound like jugg has bad dps. It's DoTs are weak because most of it's damage comes right away from your instant attacks. Which is why I am saying it is as far from a traditional DoT spec (Hatred, Annihilation, Madness etc) as it's possible while still being considered the DoT spec of juggernauts.

Having so much frontloaded damage makes juggernauts incredibly strong because they don't suffer from the weaknesses that other DoT specs have.

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Equeliber
07.26.2019 , 11:44 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by taxidermis View Post
how so? you have multiple bleeds, its great for stacking bleeds on boss then killing adds, while bleeds dot the boss. its also juggs only dot spec, rage is burst.
Out of all DoT specs in SWTOR juggernauts have the lowest percentage of total dps coming from DoTs. Most of your damage is frontloaded. The only spec that is similar is Pyrotech but that one still does more DoT damage compared to Instant damage attacks.

There is a reason why Rage juggs have like 6% presence in operations while Vengeance is played by over 90% of juggs. Of course, lower dps of Rage is the main cause. But it's also that by taking Vengeance you are not going to suffer from severe lack of burst damage or bad target switching capabilities. Those 2 weaknesses are typical for a traditional DoT spec but Vengeance doesn't suffer from them.

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Spartanator
07.26.2019 , 03:02 PM | #10
Does this mean I can use Innovative Ordinance excessively again? That would make me very happy if so.
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