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Legacy names -- allow us to change them

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Legacy names -- allow us to change them

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Erazimus
12.26.2011 , 04:42 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by AJediKnight View Post
the GMs are unable to do that!
At this point the GMs are just following orders and are just like customer support ST spouters, I wouldn't take their word as in stone, just wait a bit, I do believe they will allow an option to pay credits for a change, perhaps they can add a shady alien who offers you to pay for a new identity with black market ID papers.
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AJediKnight
12.26.2011 , 04:53 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Erazimus View Post
At this point the GMs are just following orders and are just like customer support ST spouters, I wouldn't take their word as in stone, just wait a bit, I do believe they will allow an option to pay credits for a change, perhaps they can add a shady alien who offers you to pay for a new identity with black market ID papers.
Yes, but the problem is, how many months away is that? I agree with you -- I don't think the situation is permanent (although I wouldn't want to bet my life on it, either: know how long they ignored us about the character creator in beta? You don't want to know! ); we are in the earliest of early days following launch -- some changes (although maybe not *this* change) are bound to come.

But, again, how long does that mean that people who chose something they don't like have to wait? How low a priority is this?

Wouldn't a good stopgap measure be to allow for a one-time GM change? And, hell, barring that, wouldn't a good fail-safe for the system be to have the system 'forget' a name if you deleted every character on a particular server? I'm fine with going to extremes; I'm fine with deletion; I'm fine with paying real-life money. What I am not fine with is 'tough' or 'that's life,' which is essentially Bioware's response at this juncture.

It's early in the game for all of us; I can delete a couple of characters to make it right. But I am far more leery of betting on Bioware changing this in the long term. If I knew such change was coming in 5 or 6 months? Sure, I'd hold out. But to not know at all? To wonder if a change will never come the entire time I'm playing a character? At that point, I think I'd rather abandon my guild and my server. Change does not come easily here; frequently, change does not seem to come at all.
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Rouncer
12.26.2011 , 04:54 PM | #13
Seems to me that the best solution, while keeping to the perceived developer intent for the legacy system, is to give people an option whenever they get a character to the end of Act 1 to delete their current legacy and start a brand new one under a new name. If you opted to start a new legacy then all legacy xp under the old name would be lost and that name would be freed up for anyone else to claim.

Most likely though they will eventually allow people to pay real money to change their legacy name instead as that will make them more money and there is nothing wrong with making money from completely optional things like that.

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AJediKnight
12.26.2011 , 04:58 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Rouncer View Post
Seems to me that the best solution, while keeping to the perceived developer intent for the legacy system, is to give people an option whenever they get a character to the end of Act 1 to delete their current legacy and start a brand new one under a new name. If you opted to start a new legacy then all legacy xp under the old name would be lost and that name would be freed up for anyone else to claim.
Great suggestion. I bet it would take very little work to develop that. It's probably something that could be added quite easily in a minor patch. I mean, the Legacy System was added very late into development -- there are probably very few things that a change to it would 'bug out.'

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Most likely though they will eventually allow people to pay real money to change their legacy name instead as that will make them more money and there is nothing wrong with making money from completely optional things like that.
I agree.

Question is: when? And do they even know there is a problem? There was never a reply to the 100s of pages of complaints about the legacy system when it was announced as the only path to surnames; all comments were ignored. When you shout into the darkness and nobody replies, how do you even know you were heard?

Bioware might just think everything is peachy right now. Maybe not, but how the heck could we know? All channels of communication are silent.
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Ragnab
12.26.2011 , 04:59 PM | #15
I didnt actualy know this. I planned on having my main with one secind name and my alts with different ones. I come form LotRO and agree this should be changed. I stress for ages when I make my first char because they have to look right and have the right name, that includes second names. So my main will be fine but my alts wont be able to have their proper name, not game breaking for me but irritating for sure!
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Lu_Bei
12.26.2011 , 05:00 PM | #16
Make your sith characters on a different server. or go into options and hide your legacy surname. The point, really, is to have an 'account' per server which gives you unlocks based on how much you've played the game in totality. It has little to do with surnames.

That said, it would be nice to have the option for your legacy and surname to be separate in some way. Where legacy unlocks surnames, but you can pick per character or something once they reach the 2nd chapter.
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AJediKnight
12.26.2011 , 05:01 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Ragnab View Post
I didnt actualy know this. I planned on having my main with one secind name and my alts with different ones. I come form LotRO and agree this should be changed. I stress for ages when I make my first char because they have to look right and have the right name, that includes second names. So my main will be fine but my alts wont be able to have their proper name, not game breaking for me but irritating for sure!
And if your main is no longer your main... how would you feel then?

Again, I think this drives some people nuts, and doesn't affect other people at all. I'm a bigtime roleplayer, and have had most of my characters (first and last names for them all) for years now. I started off playing one, and assigned her the appropriate last name. Then, 10 levels later, I changed my mind. Well, too bad on that one, I guess!
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AJediKnight
12.26.2011 , 05:04 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Lu_Bei View Post
Make your sith characters on a different server. or go into options and hide your legacy surname. The point, really, is to have an 'account' per server which gives you unlocks based on how much you've played the game in totality. It has little to do with surnames.
It has everything to do with surnames. It is the only method to having a surname in TOR. Surnames are huge in Star Wars. Who is Luke without Skywalker? Han without Solo? Wedge without Antilles? And, what's worse, in TOR, they'd all probably be Luke Antilles, Han Antilles, and Wedge Antilles. But, what's worse, is they'd constantly be bumping into enemies like Boba Antilles and Emperor Antilles.

Why would anyone care if the legacy name and the surname were two different things? This wouldn't ruin the game for anyone. Hell, you can already hide the legacy name -- if it really mattered all that much, you wouldn't even be able to do that.

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That said, it would be nice to have the option for your legacy and surname to be separate in some way. Where legacy unlocks surnames, but you can pick per character or something once they reach the 2nd chapter.
Exactly.
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DarkoDon
12.26.2011 , 05:14 PM | #19
I say get rid of surnames completely. They cause too many issues like this and others. Also, if you can't have the same surname as someone else on the server, it kinda forces you to either lvl as fast as possible to get the name you want, in turn skipping the whole point of this game....story. Or forget the name you'd like cause it will most likely be taken when you hit 50 cause you were busy enjoying this game for what it was meant to be....story.

Surnames should have either been avail at char creation, or not at all. Making a last name a reward is just plain w..t..f.
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AJediKnight
12.26.2011 , 05:15 PM | #20
I'm going to keep this thread bumped. Since Bioware removed the search feature, this is the only way to keep a topic afloat now.
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