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You can get the celebration Jawa, which is essentially the same thing, at the next Life Day event. You'll have to wait almost another year but it does return regularly with the event.

 

Nico & Master Ranos however should return with additional opportunities to obtain them for those that missed them. Nico was a subscriber benefit if I remember correctly so he should return as a Cartel Market purchase to keep things fair. Master Ranos was obtained via achievements during the Dark Vs Light event so either she should return as a one of the rewards during a subsequent DvL event (similar to how previous awards from the Casino event can be obtained in the next event, even though there are new prizes), or players should have to purchase her from the CM.

 

I'm not a fan of CM purchases personally but I don't think players should get for nothing anything than previous players either had to pay for or grind to obtain. I have Nico but missed out on Ranos, and don't think it would be fair to other players if I got her for nothing. I'm fine with either having the same achievement hurdle or needing to spend CC at a rate appropriate for whatever the time investment was to obtain her originally. Obviously i prefer the achievement route, but either I think would be fair to players who were around for DvL.

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Master Ranos was obtained via achievements during the Dark Vs Light event so either she should return as a one of the rewards during a subsequent DvL event (similar to how previous awards from the Casino event can be obtained in the next event, even though there are new prizes), or players should have to purchase her from the CM.

Personally I would be 100% in favour of a second run of DvL in which players who missed the first one would have a new opportunity to earn Master Ranos. However, I would be completely against her being added to the CM, even for a very high number of CC. I don't think that the large time investment required for this reward should be circumventable by spending money.

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Personally I would be 100% in favour of a second run of DvL in which players who missed the first one would have a new opportunity to earn Master Ranos. However, I would be completely against her being added to the CM, even for a very high number of CC. I don't think that the large time investment required for this reward should be circumventable by spending money.

 

This. She should not be able to be brought off the CM. She should only be gotten by doing DvL and doing exactly what we had to do to get her.

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As someone who wasn't around to get Party Jawa, would buy him/her on CM (for achievement sake). Also would like to see Master Ranos, Nico Okarr and any others who were only available at certain times if you were a subscriber. I would buy em off CM.

 

Master Ranos was not a subscriber reward. She was a reward for doing DVL and should she be brought back that is the way she should be obtained. We had to grind varies items, Flashpoints, leveling, etc and that is the way she should be given out if she is given out again. I don't agree with purchasing her off the CM.

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Personally I would be 100% in favour of a second run of DvL in which players who missed the first one would have a new opportunity to earn Master Ranos. However, I would be completely against her being added to the CM, even for a very high number of CC. I don't think that the large time investment required for this reward should be circumventable by spending money.

 

I only mention the CM because every time we've had a thread requesting that the DvL event return so that people who missed out can have a shot at Master Ranos, the typical reply has been that the event should remain a one time thing.

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When BW allowed us to obtain Darth Hexid, they painted themselves into a corner as far as the old DvL event is concerned. Meaning they would have to create a new Dark Side companion reward. And those that already have Master Ranos would be pushing for Dark Side to win to get this newer companion. So if the Dark Side wins, the result from that would be people that didn't earn Master Ranos would still not get her, so we'll be back in the same boat we are now - people asking for her to be available through direct purchase.

 

If you ask me, which no one has, the DvL event was one giant fiasco that forced veteran players to replay old content that had already been played through many times already, and regrind achievements and crew skills that they already had accomplished, if they wanted to "reap the rewards" from it. I almost cancelled my sub when I read about it before it started. But I stuck around. I did all of the achievements mostly through helping others through it, but I still ground my teeth through the entire process. And I did end up cancelling my sub before the event ended because I was so burnt out doing the event. When I came back last October, I had the rewards sitting in my mail box. I couldn't even get excited about that after being away for a year.

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Master Ranos was not a subscriber reward. She was a reward for doing DVL and should she be brought back that is the way she should be obtained. We had to grind varies items, Flashpoints, leveling, etc and that is the way she should be given out if she is given out again. I don't agree with purchasing her off the CM.

For the members of the audience who weren't there, this is what you had to do to get Master Ranos:

* Get a DvL character to level 25. (Heroic level)

* Get a DvL character to level 50 and do three story-mode flashpoints. (Legacy level)

* Complete the Shadow of Revan story on a DvL character. (Valiant level)

* Complete chapters I to IX of KotFE. (Valiant level)

* Complete the introductory stronghold mission from the holostatue on a DvL character. (Valiant level)

* Complete KotFE up to Chapter XVI on a DvL character. (Champion level)

* Complete five KotFE Alliance Alerts on a DvL character. (Champion level)

* Complete ALL tactical ("Veteran" these days) flashpoints except Black Talon and The Esseles on as many DvL characters as needed. (Champion level)

* Complete enough Warzones to get a DvL character to Valor 5. (Champion level) (Two Warzones was enough.)

* Get a Republic DvL character to level 65. (Eternal level)

* Get an Empire DvL character to level 65. (Eternal level)

* Complete round 5 of the Eternal Championship on a DvL character. (Eternal level)

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When BW allowed us to obtain Darth Hexid, they painted themselves into a corner as far as the old DvL event is concerned. Meaning they would have to create a new Dark Side companion reward. And those that already have Master Ranos would be pushing for Dark Side to win to get this newer companion. So if the Dark Side wins, the result from that would be people that didn't earn Master Ranos would still not get her, so we'll be back in the same boat we are now - people asking for her to be available through direct purchase.

 

If you ask me, which no one has, the DvL event was one giant fiasco that forced veteran players to replay old content that had already been played through many times already, and regrind achievements and crew skills that they already had accomplished, if they wanted to "reap the rewards" from it. I almost cancelled my sub when I read about it before it started. But I stuck around. I did all of the achievements mostly through helping others through it, but I still ground my teeth through the entire process. And I did end up cancelling my sub before the event ended because I was so burnt out doing the event. When I came back last October, I had the rewards sitting in my mail box. I couldn't even get excited about that after being away for a year.

 

you are ignoring the fine print of the DvsL event where it stated that Bioware can choose which side wins (as they did for the original event)

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you are ignoring the fine print of the DvsL event where it stated that Bioware can choose which side wins (as they did for the original event)

Are you waving your hand at me? :rolleyes:

 

I must be overlooking it because I don't see that in the ALL CAPITAL LETTER FINE PRINT.

DvL Event Terms and Conditions

 

 

* REQUIRES A Star Wars: THE OLD REPUBLIC (“SWTOR”) ACCOUNT. VALID WHEREVER SWTOR IS SOLD. REWARDS ARE LIMITED TO ONE SET PER SWTOR ACCOUNT. SUBSEQUENT COMPLETIONS OF CHALLENGES WILL NOT GRANT ADDITIONAL REWARDS. SUBSCRIPTION GAMEPLAY REQUIRED TO COMPLETED VALIANT, CHAMPION, ETERNAL, AND LEGENDARY LEVELS. ALL IN-GAME TITLES, THE FORCE-BOUND DARK VS. LIGHT PACK REWARDS AND THE VICTORIOUS PIONEER’S ARMOR SET ARE DELIVERED AS EARNED VIA IN-GAME MAIL. THE REMAINING REWARDS INCLUDING THE SHADE STALKER RUNT MINI-PET, THE VICTOR’S TRAILBLAZER AND VICTOR’S TITAN MOUNTS, DARTH HEXID OR MASTER RANOS COMPANION AND THE VICTORIOUS TRAILBLAZER’S AND VICTORIOUS TITAN’S ARMOR SETS ARE DELIVERED VIA IN-GAME MAIL AFTER THE END OF THE EVENT THIS FALL. ACCEPTANCE OF END USER ACCESS AND LICENSE AGREEMENT ('EUALA'), PERSISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION, AND ACCOUNT REGISTRATION REQUIRED TO PLAY. MUST BE 13+ TO REGISTER. ACCOUNT IS NON-TRANSFERABLE ONCE USED. PAID SUBSCRIPTION, VALID AND ACCEPTED PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD (IF AVAILABLE) REQUIRED TO ACCESS SUBSCRIPTION GAMEPLAY. PAYMENT METHOD AGE RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY. SWTOR ONLINE SERVICE MAY BE DISCONTINUED. SEE EUALA FOR DETAILS. AGREEMENT TO SHARE ACCOUNT INFORMATION WITH LUCASFILM ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY LTD. ('LUCASFILM') IS REQUIRED TO ACCESS GAMEPLAY. GAME INTENDED FOR PLAY ONLY WITHIN NORTH AMERICA, EUROPE AND CERTAIN OTHER TERRITORIES. USE OF CARTEL COINS SUBJECT TO DIGITAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. PRIVACY POLICY AND TERMS OF SERVICE AVAILABLE AT http://WWW.SWTOR.COM. ALL TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO PLAY THE GAME APPLY AT ALL TIMES. SUBSCRIPTIONS MAY BE CANCELLED AT ANY TIME. SEE http://WWW.SWTOR.COM FOR DETAILS.

 

**THIS OFFER IS BEING ISSUED TO YOU FOR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND DO NOT CONSTITUTE A CREDIT, CHARGE, DEBIT OR GIFT CARD. THE Star Wars: THE OLD REPUBLIC – KNIGHTS OF THE FALLEN EMPIRE STORY BONUS PACK OFFER IS VALID FOR ALL PLAYERS WITH A SWTOR ACCOUNT BEGINNING JUNE 23, 2016. THIS PACK MAY BE DISCONTINUED WITHOUT NOTICE AT THE DISCRETION OF ELECTRONIC ARTS, INC. THE SWTOR KOTFE STORY STORY BONUS PACK IS DESIGNED TO FEED YOUR NEED FOR AWESOME Star Wars™ STORY SET IN THE OLD REPUBLIC UNIVERSE; A ONE-TIME, NON-RECURRING PURCHASE OF $19.99 USD AND IMMEDIATELY ADDS 30 DAYS OF CONTINUOUS PREPAID SUBSCRIPTION GAME TIME TO YOUR SWTOR ACCOUNT. PLUS, THE KOTFE STORY BONUS PACK INCLUDES 555 BONUS CARTEL COINS TO ENSURE YOU GET OFF TO A FAST START WITH THE ICONIC WEAPONS, ARMOR OR MOUNTS – ALL AVAILABLE IN THE IN-GAME CARTEL MARKET. KOTFE STORY BONUS PACK BUYERS ALSO RECEIVE ALL SUBSCRIBER BENEFITS AND REWARDS AS LONG AS THE SUBSCRIPTION IS ACTIVE. OFFER MAY NOT BE SUBSTITUTED, EXCHANGED, SOLD OR REDEEMED FOR CASH OR OTHER GOODS OR SERVICES. MAY NOT BE COMBINED WITH ANY OTHER PROMOTIONAL OR DISCOUNT OFFER, UNLESS EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY EA; MAY NOT BE COMBINED WITH ANY PREPAID CARD REDEEMABLE FOR THE APPLICABLE CONTENT. VOID WHERE PROHIBITED, TAXED OR RESTRICTED BY LAW.

 

***LIMIT ONE FREE LEVEL 60 CHARACTER PER SWTOR ACCOUNT.

 

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Are you waving your hand at me? :rolleyes:

 

I must be overlooking it because I don't see that in the ALL CAPITAL LETTER FINE PRINT.

DvL Event Terms and Conditions

 

I already see from other threads that you are a armchair legal expert so I would never try to explain something as simple as the EUALA to anyone as knowledgeable as yourself and how it pertains to in-game property, contests, and currency.

 

I'll see myself out.

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While we're at it: I want to buy all ranked PvP rewards from all seasons including titles and - if there are some (I don't recall right now) - achievements on the CM. I didn't participate in some seasons, because I didn't care back then. But now I care. So I deserve to be able to buy those things for real life money which I have plenty of.

 

People would also surely appreciate the Wings of the Architect and similar items for direct CM sale.

 

Maybe they could also sell achievements for direct sale? For 25 CC you can go from 1/25 to 2/25. When you're at 10/25, it costs 50 to move up one number. From 20/25 onwards, it's 100 CC per number. Sounds fair to me.

 

(If you found sarcasm, you can keep it.)

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I already see from other threads that you are a armchair legal expert so I would never try to explain something as simple as the EUALA to anyone as knowledgeable as yourself and how it pertains to in-game property, contests, and currency.

 

I'll see myself out.

 

Show me where it said that BW would decide the outcome when it was explained that the outcome would be based on the actions of the players.

 

But if you're going to go away, don't go away mad. Just go away without lowering yourself by making a poor attempt at insults. :rolleyes:

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If they start selling event rewards on the CM, I have a list of ones I didn't get when they were in game. Like the Victor's Titan mount and "the Legendary Victor" title. Oh and legacy unlocks for the Chevin titles and the Gamorian Guard companion.

 

The Gamorrean companion will most likely return with the next Casino Event, assuming that it returns this summer. Previous jackpots from previous cycles of the event were available for purchase with Golden Certificates that could spent on the event vendor. Assuming the event returns (it should) it will likely have new jackpots and last summer's companion & speeder jackpots will probably be available on the vendor.

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While we're at it: I want to buy all ranked PvP rewards from all seasons including titles and - if there are some (I don't recall right now) - achievements on the CM. I didn't participate in some seasons, because I didn't care back then. But now I care. So I deserve to be able to buy those things for real life money which I have plenty of.

 

People would also surely appreciate the Wings of the Architect and similar items for direct CM sale.

 

Maybe they could also sell achievements for direct sale? For 25 CC you can go from 1/25 to 2/25. When you're at 10/25, it costs 50 to move up one number. From 20/25 onwards, it's 100 CC per number. Sounds fair to me.

 

(If you found sarcasm, you can keep it.)

 

Ranos is a bit different than other rewards in that she is a companion that has some dialogue on what former companions are up to, including some who have yet to be returned.

 

As such I think locking her behind a one time event would be a bad decision. Either the event should return and give players another shot at obtaining her via the same means or she could be obtainable via some other means that is still fair to the people who participated in the first event. The same is also true for Darth Hexid. Since she has dialogue related to the companions as well I think players who weren't playing during the period she could be obtained should get another means to obtain her eventually.

 

The Wings of the Architect may be cool but it has no story content. Ranos & Hexid do.

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The Gamorrean companion will most likely return with the next Casino Event, assuming that it returns this summer. Previous jackpots from previous cycles of the event were available for purchase with Golden Certificates that could spent on the event vendor. Assuming the event returns (it should) it will likely have new jackpots and last summer's companion & speeder jackpots will probably be available on the vendor.

 

While he probably will return to the event again, there is no legacy unlock for him, which is what I was suggesting. Not terribly seriously, but it would be nice. It took me all summer to get one and I’m not masochistic enough to try for another, let alone 45 more. I would, however, throw money at a legacy unlock :p

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How about this, they Add all the previous rewards to a vender who is part of a faction that needs you guessed it Reputation to earn all previous items that were rewarded. Even though I have a ton of items that are exclusive. Their is still a lot more I missed out on. kind of like the Class venders who sell legacy items for credits.

 

I think a reputation grind tide into a permanent event that is based on 2 things. Weekly's and Daily's and a new world boss for 6.0 would be interesting too.

 

Just a thought :)

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I wouldn't mind if they did another subscriber event (or two) for Nico, also the bonus HK chapter & that comp. Maybe cook up a couple cool looking exclusive mounts for those that already have them unlocked to give those players something to earn as well. They could just do another long grindy event for Ranos, doesn't have to be DvL. Same thing, just cook up something new & exclusive for players who have her unlocked to grind for.

 

Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to pull off really, don't have to put everything in the cash shop.

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I wouldn't mind if they did another subscriber event (or two) for Nico, also the bonus HK chapter & that comp. Maybe cook up a couple cool looking exclusive mounts for those that already have them unlocked to give those players something to earn as well. They could just do another long grindy event for Ranos, doesn't have to be DvL. Same thing, just cook up something new & exclusive for players who have her unlocked to grind for.

 

Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to pull off really, don't have to put everything in the cash shop.

 

All that would happen is that you would have the crying on the forums from:

 

A) people who now want the "new shinies" that those that originally received the past rewards get

 

and

 

B) those who miss out on the "second chance" for the past subscriber rewards.

 

 

Offering them again solves nothing. It will, at best, change the specifics of the cries.

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I don't care about other companions but I would really like if BW would give us a way to get the Shae Vizla companion, it doesn't matter to me how - on the cartel market or as a sub reward for a prolonged subscription. Edited by Lunablade
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