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The Incompetence of Bioware is Astounding.

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The Incompetence of Bioware is Astounding.

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peter_plankskull
12.17.2015 , 04:29 PM | #1
Ever since 4.0 hit, many others and I have been losing faith in Bioware. 4.0 was suppose to be this new fresh expansion, something to shower us with new content, a immersive story about star wars, and our choices matter more than ever throughout storylines. Although this has been disproven through many threads about this non immersive story, and choices not mattering regardless of what you do, and the lack of content is appalling, there has been more bugs than ever resurfacing and they been neglecting the entire player base.

I wonder what player base are you trying to reach out to, because I see you failing every ones minimum expectations. Ill admit, im no nightmare raider, but even I understand progression, and you certainly ruined getting 224 loot. You also lost the group oriented player base as well, those who do flashpoints, or repeatable group content, are forced to run 4 year old content. You're suppose to make 4 year old content relevant, NOT making it the new meta to progress. The only thing there is for no group content, are these boring, bland, copy pasted, and unimaginative Star Fortresses. These are incredibly unrewarding once so ever providing no meaningful reward, not in terms of gear, cash, or even a RP element, all you get is a Nintendo Congraulations for running them 12 times minimum. Even your casual story player is left to rot in the rakghoul plague... oh... wait...(ill get you later.) Your casual story players are left with a roughly 6-8 hours, give or take a few depending on the person, and then there done. There is only one reason to roll a alt, and that's to pick the dark side options, and even then it has ZERO effect on the ending, some of your companions may hate you, but nothing overall important has changed. Once they finish the debacle they are forced to run into Start Fortresses, with no meaningful story content once so ever. Getting all the comps aren't rewarding in the slightest, as you don't see there personalities at all other than there recruitment conversations. No conflicting personalities about there philosophy, there previous actions; there's ZERO interaction between each of them. I think im forgetting a part of the community... ah... lets..hm... ah the PVP and GSF community. I don't do either of these, but just looking at the content flowing in over the years, that these 2 groups should of left by now. You have a highly dedicated community here, it takes either a lot of ignorance, or passion, to stay with people who constantly ignore you. 2 years since there last map, and they have another horizon coming soon, remind me why they are still here again? You have neglected EVERY part of your community here, coming up short in content and have haven't even addressed the problems here, and that needs to change.

Maybe... just maybe... just MAYBE ignoring your player base is acceptable to some brown nosing fanboy, but can this brown noser really defend Bioware from neglecting the amount of game breaking bugs which constantly disrupt gameplay? Some of our companions final stories, heck some of them even APPEARING and being PLAYABLE, took WEEKS to fix. What about this stack exploit that went on FOR SIX WEEKS... SIX WEEKS to fixing a exploit that RUINED the in game economy. What about this events you say, the ONLY reason to stay subbed in December, and like the "HEY GUYS, this is THE reason to stay subbed this week, enjoy our amazing events that we been recycling over the last 3 years, but this time, you get a companion tied to one." NOPE, instead you let an ENTIRE EVENT, the STAGING POINT of being subbed this month, lay to waste, across one of your LARGEST INFLUX of FANS. I guess neglecting all player bases, one that even loves star wars is also part on the checklist as well? There are also a bunch of other glitches, but these have been the most conversed lately and are significantly more important, however im not saying the others ones aren't important. Fix your game, and rethink why people are staying subbed this month.

I completely forgot to mention the tenderness and love that Customer Support gives you... sarcasm nuke going off. Do I really need to mention this? its mentioned in the forums enough.

Do you even care about your game anymore Bioware? I understand you guys have family and its the holidays, but this is THE moment to keep your game in tip top fashion, due to the lack of content and the new movies being released. I'm not one of those" THE END IS NIGH" kind of people, and im not saying this game is going to be shutdown anytime soon if you keep going down the dark side , but you ARE losing the respect of your player base, both long time, and newcomers about. Fix your game Bioware, because ill be making sure full well how you treat your player base to the newcomers in the next few months.

Edit- Ah damn it... I accidently hit post instead of preview...wall o text is big enough anyway.

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Dreadicus
12.17.2015 , 04:39 PM | #2
Summary, and a bit more gently put I hope - I hope Bio has some employees and CS service working through the holidays while some are on vacation, that have the capacity to fix the current event bugs, still occurring as the SW movie premieres *tonight* and could very well start to bring *potential* new subscribers to SWTOR *right now* who may find things buggy/not working, and be put off.

Please fix kthnx

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Jerqa
12.17.2015 , 04:42 PM | #3
Unfortunately I too am starting to have similar feelings about the game and this company after recent events that I have tried, and failed, to get resolved.
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IslanderRebel
12.17.2015 , 05:37 PM | #4
op is dead on.


How long does Bioware really think recycling old stuff is going to keep players interested in tor?
I know of 2 guilds that had their entire raiding ops groups (7 - 8 man teams) fly off to Fallout 4 and Battlefront.
That's at least 56 people that didn't have to deal with this malarchy we're going through with now.
I'm sure there's more Bioware.
A helluva lot more.

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FerkWork
12.17.2015 , 05:41 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by IslanderRebel View Post
op is dead on.


How long does Bioware really think recycling old stuff is going to keep players interested in tor?
I know of 2 guilds that had their entire raiding ops groups (7 - 8 man teams) fly off to Fallout 4 and Battlefront.
That's at least 56 people that didn't have to deal with this malarchy we're going through with now.
I'm sure there's more Bioware.
A helluva lot more.
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star-forge
12.17.2015 , 07:10 PM | #6
Ever since 4.0 droped the amount of bugs in this game is just mind blowing and i for one am finding it hard to stay subbed.

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CrazyCT
12.17.2015 , 07:23 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by IslanderRebel View Post
op is dead on.


How long does Bioware really think recycling old stuff is going to keep players interested in tor?
I know of 2 guilds that had their entire raiding ops groups (7 - 8 man teams) fly off to Fallout 4 and Battlefront.
That's at least 56 people that didn't have to deal with this malarchy we're going through with now.
I'm sure there's more Bioware.
A helluva lot more.
All I saw previous to KOTFE was people saying the game was dead, but you personally know of at least 56 players (7 full raiding groups, unless my maths is wrong) who have only just left? The game must have been doing better than everyone thought.

Quote: Originally Posted by star-forge View Post
Ever since 4.0 droped the amount of bugs in this game is just mind blowing and i for one am finding it hard to stay subbed.
.....but you'll struggle on, just so you can keep telling people how hard it is for you?
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SenileBomber
12.17.2015 , 07:48 PM | #8
I'm cancelling my subscription today. I was giving BioWare a chance under the impression that their new focus on "episodic" content would mean they intended to actually bring out content at a reasonable pace. But the dearth of content in terms of Flashpoints, Operations, Alliance content, and even in the story they were touting as a return to form is disgusting, and the "rewards" they want to hand out in return for sticking through this months-long barren patch is frankly insulting.

I can safely say they've permanently lost me as a customer this time.
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BrotherJohn
12.17.2015 , 07:50 PM | #9
OP is right on point. sadly this model they think would be an epic grand slam is actually three strikes. game isn't dead but is slowly dying and at the pace they have implemented this new chapter story content they are doomed to have people sub for a month and leave. which ultimately means less in CM sales. that is the only reason EA keeps it a float now. sad times really

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Morthion
12.17.2015 , 07:53 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by peter_plankskull View Post
Ever since 4.0 hit, many others and I have been losing faith in Bioware. 4.0 was suppose to be this new fresh expansion, something to shower us with new content, a immersive story about star wars, and our choices matter more than ever throughout storylines. Although this has been disproven through many threads about this non immersive story, and choices not mattering regardless of what you do, and the lack of content is appalling, there has been more bugs than ever resurfacing and they been neglecting the entire player base.
Really? Every single one of them, neglected? And you've confirmed this with . . . ?

I only asked because they fixed several Artifact Authorization bugs, which subscribers wouldn't even notice.

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I wonder what player base are you trying to reach out to, because I see you failing every ones minimum expectations.
And how do you know what everybody's minimum expectations are?

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Ill admit, im no nightmare raider, but even I understand progression, and you certainly ruined getting 224 loot. You also lost the group oriented player base as well, those who do flashpoints, or repeatable group content, are forced to run 4 year old content. You're suppose to make 4 year old content relevant, NOT making it the new meta to progress.
So how exactly is it supposed to be relevant, then?

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The only thing there is for no group content, are these boring, bland, copy pasted, and unimaginative Star Fortresses. These are incredibly unrewarding once so ever providing no meaningful reward, not in terms of gear, cash, or even a RP element, all you get is a Nintendo Congraulations for running them 12 times minimum. Even your casual story player is left to rot in the rakghoul plague... oh... wait...(ill get you later.) Your casual story players are left with a roughly 6-8 hours, give or take a few depending on the person, and then there done. There is only one reason to roll a alt, and that's to pick the dark side options,
That is not even close to the only reason to go through the game more than once.

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and even then it has ZERO effect on the ending, some of your companions may hate you, but nothing overall important has changed. Once they finish the debacle they are forced to run into Start Fortresses, with no meaningful story content once so ever. Getting all the comps aren't rewarding in the slightest, as you don't see there personalities at all other than there recruitment conversations. No conflicting personalities about there philosophy, there previous actions; there's ZERO interaction between each of them. I think im forgetting a part of the community... ah... lets..hm... ah the PVP and GSF community. I don't do either of these, but just looking at the content flowing in over the years, that these 2 groups should of left by now. You have a highly dedicated community here, it takes either a lot of ignorance, or passion, to stay with people who constantly ignore you. 2 years since there last map, and they have another horizon coming soon, remind me why they are still here again? You have neglected EVERY part of your community here, coming up short in content and have haven't even addressed the problems here, and that needs to change.
The funny part is, the content you claim you don't do is where your most reasonable and grounded complaints are.

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Maybe... just maybe... just MAYBE ignoring your player base is acceptable to some brown nosing fanboy, but can this brown noser really defend Bioware from neglecting the amount of game breaking bugs which constantly disrupt gameplay?
Easily. Your post is full of mistakes and typos. If you can't produce perfection when writing, don't expect Bioware to (they are, after all, typing code). To do otherwise is raw hypocrisy.

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Some of our companions final stories, heck some of them even APPEARING and being PLAYABLE, took WEEKS to fix. What about this stack exploit that went on FOR SIX WEEKS... SIX WEEKS to fixing a exploit that RUINED the in game economy.
What, you mean the economy was okay before that exploit? Are you sure?

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What about this events you say, the ONLY reason to stay subbed in December, and like the "HEY GUYS, this is THE reason to stay subbed this week, enjoy our amazing events that we been recycling over the last 3 years, but this time, you get a companion tied to one." NOPE, instead you let an ENTIRE EVENT, the STAGING POINT of being subbed this month, lay to waste, across one of your LARGEST INFLUX of FANS. I guess neglecting all player bases, one that even loves star wars is also part on the checklist as well?
The event is not the only reason to stay subbed. At a rough guess, there are tons of Star Wars fans out there that don't care about Rakghouls.

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There are also a bunch of other glitches, but these have been the most conversed lately and are significantly more important, however im not saying the others ones aren't important. Fix your game, and rethink why people are staying subbed this month.

I completely forgot to mention the tenderness and love that Customer Support gives you... sarcasm nuke going off. Do I really need to mention this? its mentioned in the forums enough.

Do you even care about your game anymore Bioware? I understand you guys have family and its the holidays, but this is THE moment to keep your game in tip top fashion, due to the lack of content and the new movies being released. I'm not one of those" THE END IS NIGH" kind of people, and im not saying this game is going to be shutdown anytime soon if you keep going down the dark side , but you ARE losing the respect of your player base, both long time, and newcomers about. Fix your game Bioware, because ill be making sure full well how you treat your player base to the newcomers in the next few months.

Edit- Ah damn it... I accidently hit post instead of preview...wall o text is big enough anyway.
Offhand, they can't lose something that wasn't being given in the first place. Nothing I've seen from reading the forums for the past couple of years had led me to believe that the player base at large has any respect for Bioware at all.

They do, however, have harassment and threats for them . . .