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FlameYOL
01.07.2019 , 10:30 AM | #11
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1. Ah, so he will almost completely copy Vader storyline. "Booo I'm a more machine than a man, tell your sister you were right about me!" - bleh. For all degeneracy I saw in this game recently, I am really afraid that in the end of things I will see Malgus joining the Light Side and the Jedi (like Scourge or that weakminded p ussy on Tatooine in Jedi Knight story). But still you've got a point, maybe it's too early to judge.
This has nothing to do with Vader, Vader's story is about his redemption. Malgus will likely never be redeemed. And what "degeneracy" have you seen in this game? I'm rather curious now. And Scourge doesn't join the Light Side, your misunderstanding of the character is great there, he allies with the Jedi so he can help them take down the Emperor because that was his vision of the Hero of Tython being the one to kill the Emperor.

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2. I was talking about Malgus more like about a symbol. A symbol of glory and devastating power of Old Sith Empire. "Yes, Korriban is OURS again!" - such love and pride was put in this line by him. I thought (irrationally, I might agree) that behind all of his sadness and dissapointment towards Vitiate Empire he was still a proper old-school Sith Lord who just needs a short and nice vacation to remember who he really is and throw out of the window all this nonsense about "reforming". Inner b itching about his twilek girlfriend didn't and won't help him to defeat the Republic once and for all.
Reforming is the only way the Empire will survive.

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3. Wow, such an evil and terrible deed - to destroy a planet on which no one lives except a couple of Jedi colonists! Ah, and burn some books with the librarian too! EVIL MASTERMIND DESTROYS A GHOST TOWN WITHOUT A POPULATION - who the **** cares anyway? Just compare this to Sacking of Coruscant, the Campaign in Core Worlds - I was expecting a lot more, when I heard about "returning to old narrative".
Well yes, it is an evil deed regardless of how you see it. This is merely a preemptive strike dude chill out, the Sith are attacking the Jedi so they don't have time to recover. And the symbolism about Ossus' destruction could be used to argue that no matter where the Jedi are, the Sith will find them and hunt them down. This is merely a set up to a great war to come, likely in the form of the expansion. So chill out and wait for it "This is only the beginning".

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And also I really insist that without slavery and racism Sith Empire is not Sith Empire, it's a bleh like Empire of Thrawn - a compromise for WEAKLINGS and normies who don't have guts to be evil, but who want to pretend they are "evil". Cool aesthetics and edgy speeches without really controversal (in the eyes of player) deeds. Killing Jedi is not controversal since there are majority of players who think the Jedi are nothing more than self-righteous hypocrites (and that's a pretty fair point).
It is the Sith Empire, slavery is still there. So is racism but thankfully its being overrun. You mean Empire of the Hand, and Thrawn was a mastermind strategist, he embodied what the Empire should be. And Thrawn could be pretty evil when he needed, but only when the situation actually called for it.
A man can have anything...If he's willing to sacrifice everything

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Mzuta
01.21.2019 , 06:03 PM | #12
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This has nothing to do with Vader, Vader's story is about his redemption. Malgus will likely never be redeemed. And what "degeneracy" have you seen in this game? I'm rather curious now. And Scourge doesn't join the Light Side, your misunderstanding of the character is great there, he allies with the Jedi so he can help them take down the Emperor because that was his vision of the Hero of Tython being the one to kill the Emperor.


Reforming is the only way the Empire will survive.


Well yes, it is an evil deed regardless of how you see it. This is merely a preemptive strike dude chill out, the Sith are attacking the Jedi so they don't have time to recover. And the symbolism about Ossus' destruction could be used to argue that no matter where the Jedi are, the Sith will find them and hunt them down. This is merely a set up to a great war to come, likely in the form of the expansion. So chill out and wait for it "This is only the beginning".


It is the Sith Empire, slavery is still there. So is racism but thankfully its being overrun. You mean Empire of the Hand, and Thrawn was a mastermind strategist, he embodied what the Empire should be. And Thrawn could be pretty evil when he needed, but only when the situation actually called for it.
^ this

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VelvetSanity
01.21.2019 , 10:04 PM | #13
I just want to say...

Personally, I believe that KOTFE/KOTET resulted from EA refusing to give them the go-ahead to make KOTOR 3.

Also...what if Acina isnít actually controlling Malgus, but itís been the other way around from the start, and Malgus just wants people to *think* sheís the one that holds the power, so he can see who tries to take the throne for themselves without putting himself in the crosshairs?

Itís never the king on the throne that you need to worry about, itís the advisor whispering in the kingís ear...
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FlameYOL
01.22.2019 , 02:15 AM | #14
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Also...what if Acina isnít actually controlling Malgus, but itís been the other way around from the start, and Malgus just wants people to *think* sheís the one that holds the power, so he can see who tries to take the throne for themselves without putting himself in the crosshairs?

Itís never the king on the throne that you need to worry about, itís the advisor whispering in the kingís ear...
That could actually be a pretty good story if properly written, I have a feeling if they were to do that though it would feel contrived considering the current predicament with Malgus and Acina/Vowrawn. I am rather interesting to see how Malgus develops now though, despite my displeasure at the way they've handled his revival.
A man can have anything...If he's willing to sacrifice everything

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Ardrossan
01.23.2019 , 11:38 PM | #15
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That could actually be a pretty good story if properly written, I have a feeling if they were to do that though it would feel contrived considering the current predicament with Malgus and Acina/Vowrawn. I am rather interesting to see how Malgus develops now though, despite my displeasure at the way they've handled his revival.
Yes, I can buy Malgus controlling Acina - it would explain her personality shift between dread seed and kotfe - but not Vowrawn.

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irrevelant
01.24.2019 , 02:12 AM | #16
Well i'm fanatic egalitarian on the level of freedom for the AIs style. So to me Empire is an absolute no-go until i see evidence, that they went into that direction. But if i were made an evil sith-emperor goal guy, then i would take the throne of Zakuul, and become the Emperor of everything. Republic, Sith Empire, Zakuul. They all would bow before my superiority.

I think the next expansion will rekindle the old republic vs sith empire style. Hopefully with the true faction change possiblity. For now switching faction only means, that you sabotage yours, and not truly side with the other. But i believe, that this is a mere preparation of what is to come. A whole new storyline where you truly join a chosen faction and must fight with part of your own alliance to lead it to victory. At the end of Ossuss the intergalactic war is back on business.

What i would prefer is a phase shift for all planets to reflect the new war, and conflict. The main story would start with 4 path (republic, empire, and boths' betrayed version), then shortly after start your aligment gets revealed, and after a "civil war" inside the Alliance you would join the Republic, or the Empire for the rest of the new main story. Companion killing would come to a whole new level as many of your companions would decline your decision. It would be a justified way to reduce the number of followers which is way too high right now.