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SoontirMorillo
12.25.2020 , 01:11 PM | #10061
Quote: Originally Posted by Opiklo View Post
i would like to know which fps are demanding any kind of dps nowadays?
a properly geared vg tank deals the dps which is needed from a dps...
@Opiklo Just don't discuss with Little Dragon. He has his own viewpoints. You can't change them. It is, what it is.

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LD_Little_Dragon
12.25.2020 , 01:57 PM | #10062
Quote: Originally Posted by SoontirMorillo View Post
@Opiklo Just don't discuss with Little Dragon. He has his own viewpoints. You can't change them. It is, what it is.
She, stop assuming everyone who plays swtor is a guy. Just stop it. I've seen the theorycrafter discord, and yes it's a dudebro lockerroom atmosphere there, but that is not a good sample of the playerbase in the game.

My viewpoints are based on actual in-game experiences with using group-finder. Something which is used by all classes and specs, btw, not just the current NiM raider favorites.

If any of you 'ooh things are so easy types' want to put me on legacy ignore then please do so. I doubt you use group-finder so it doesn't matter to me.

One of my Star Forge characters if you want to ignore me: Signald
Satale Shan character: Drel Ruf
Stealthy heals, stealthy dps, stealthy life.

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SoontirMorillo
12.25.2020 , 02:00 PM | #10063
Quote: Originally Posted by LD_Little_Dragon View Post
One of my Star Forge characters if you want to ignore me: Signald
Satale Shan character: Drel Ruf
Thank you very much. Have nice holidays.

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mike_carton
12.25.2020 , 08:30 PM | #10064
Quote: Originally Posted by LD_Little_Dragon View Post
...If any of you 'ooh things are so easy types' want to put me on legacy ignore then please do so. I doubt you use group-finder so it doesn't matter to me.
Funnily enough, I have your correspondent on ignore on the forums (*) but not you.

I have to say it is a pain to have people on the later FPs in MM (not talking about MM Hammer Station here) who donít have/do the following, especially because such people also tend to not wait for or listen to mechanics and PoA discussion:

Quote: Originally Posted by LD_Little_Dragon View Post
1. Be geared (decent stat balance, tactical at the very least)
2. Know the fights
3. Know your class abilities and how/when to use them (including dcds, interrupts, and cc's)
To bring this back to topic is the experience from last week: Level 75 healer in decent gear who spent MM SoV spamming basic attack and throwing random heals to break up the tedium. We had to abandon the effort.

(*) I never seem to remember why I ever did that with any poster.
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SoontirMorillo
12.26.2020 , 03:22 AM | #10065
I will not discuss the same over and over in three differents threads. So i will quote myself...

Quote: Originally Posted by SoontirMorillo View Post
If you demand gear requirement for basic flashpoints, on top of being five level above the mobs in the flashpoint, the game takes another step in the wrong direction. You make the game once again easier for the players.

Bioware made nightmare endgame gear accessible for everyone.
Bioware made everyone a level 75 for level 70 master mode flashpoints with generous sync.
Bioware gave everyone additional 30 veteran edge stacks. For hard flashpoint even more (Chiss, 59).
Bioware gave you everything.
And on top of all of that, players want still minimum gear requirement, because they can't do it, if only one player doesn't meet this overpowered requirements!?
Again: if you're at this point in your swtor-life, you just need to face the fact, that it is probably you. It doesn't change, if you call me toxic. It's just a fact. Face the truth.

Where will it stop? It's called master mode. Do you want to enter the room and all mobs die? In master mode?

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Zechalakazam
12.26.2020 , 11:08 AM | #10066
Gonna add a simple one.

Vet False Emperor. During Malgus choke, a DPS said: "You guys have an ability that break stun, use it noobs"

Next choke, Me: "Why don't you use the cc breaker [DPS Name]?"

See their cheevo coz why not, almost all FP still 0% smh.

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AlrikFassbauer
01.02.2021 , 04:30 AM | #10067
Quote: Originally Posted by Opiklo View Post
there are literally no dpschecks which are in any world gear dependent.
Looks like you haven't played Blood Hunt with 3 bolstered Lowbies recently. Especially when they are under level 30.
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Khaleijo
01.02.2021 , 06:26 AM | #10068
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
Looks like you haven't played Blood Hunt with 3 bolstered Lowbies recently. Especially when they are under level 30.
Well, he was talking about MM FPs where he can't really meet characters lower than 70.
But isn't there a level restriction in VET FPs now (since Onslaught)? As in what is available in GF opens up as you level, so BH only should come into play at level 50 or 60 anyway?

Generally MM Fps aren't really gear dependant but looking at someone's gear might give a clue of how well they will listen and follow directions. Though looking at how many FPs (especially the more difficult ones) they did probably is more helpful for that.

To return to the actual topic of this thread:
Spirit of Vengeance MM a few days after release, group of three from my guild, tank and two dps (that usually play healers until recently) and a random healer.
Since we did the FP a few times before the mechanics were mostly clear though the execution not always the best since the two main healers struggled with playing the dps role too.
The healer didn't say hello but already moaned in chat for getting into that FP again yet he didn't leave the group. He clearly wanted to get through quickly though and had an annoying habit to pull stuff himself.
The bosses went not perfectly but alright, nobody blamed the healer for dying from their own faults and the healer only died once at first boss, also due to himself ignoring the mechanic and not using any ability to get free from the root.
Then comes Troya Ajak as far as we understood at that point the player targeted by that canalised shot moves to hide behind a corner or edge to avoid the damage and not get one shot (the run was still before the patch that lowered the damage significantly). Unfortunately it didn't work either due to players being to slow or the shot still killing them despite being behind cover, the boss died in the first attempt though and it was us who died and nobody complained towards the healer.
The healer though started writing condescendingly about whether we did the FP before (again, it was a few days after release) and knew what we were doing there, one of our DPS wrote truthfully to have been there once before.
No answer given to that, not an explanation what we did wrong there or anything, just the vibe of *gods, are you bad! what do I have to put up with here* and more pulling trash and last boss by the healer plus leaving at the end without any further word.
That player was collectively ignored then. We have no problem with being told being bad, but without specific explanation of why and how that's not just rude but simply utterly useless.
How do players expect inexperienced players to learn and do better next time if they don't even tell them what went wrong.
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SoontirMorillo
01.04.2021 , 03:52 AM | #10069
Quote: Originally Posted by Khaleijo View Post
Well, he was talking about MM FPs where he can't really meet characters lower than 70.
But isn't there a level restriction in VET FPs now (since Onslaught)? As in what is available in GF opens up as you level, so BH only should come into play at level 50 or 60 anyway?

Generally MM Fps aren't really gear dependant but looking at someone's gear might give a clue of how well they will listen and follow directions. Though looking at how many FPs (especially the more difficult ones) they did probably is more helpful for that.

To return to the actual topic of this thread:
Spirit of Vengeance MM a few days after release, group of three from my guild, tank and two dps (that usually play healers until recently) and a random healer.
Since we did the FP a few times before the mechanics were mostly clear though the execution not always the best since the two main healers struggled with playing the dps role too.
The healer didn't say hello but already moaned in chat for getting into that FP again yet he didn't leave the group. He clearly wanted to get through quickly though and had an annoying habit to pull stuff himself.
The bosses went not perfectly but alright, nobody blamed the healer for dying from their own faults and the healer only died once at first boss, also due to himself ignoring the mechanic and not using any ability to get free from the root.
Then comes Troya Ajak as far as we understood at that point the player targeted by that canalised shot moves to hide behind a corner or edge to avoid the damage and not get one shot (the run was still before the patch that lowered the damage significantly). Unfortunately it didn't work either due to players being to slow or the shot still killing them despite being behind cover, the boss died in the first attempt though and it was us who died and nobody complained towards the healer.
The healer though started writing condescendingly about whether we did the FP before (again, it was a few days after release) and knew what we were doing there, one of our DPS wrote truthfully to have been there once before.
No answer given to that, not an explanation what we did wrong there or anything, just the vibe of *gods, are you bad! what do I have to put up with here* and more pulling trash and last boss by the healer plus leaving at the end without any further word.
That player was collectively ignored then. We have no problem with being told being bad, but without specific explanation of why and how that's not just rude but simply utterly useless.
How do players expect inexperienced players to learn and do better next time if they don't even tell them what went wrong.
From all the people on the server, he attacked you and your guildmates? Were you incognito? No guild tag?

But honestly... a healer pulling in master mode? Straight to ignore. Or let him tank what he pulls.