Hello hello.

 

This thread is going to be compilation of tricks, hints, and tips for the three PvP Warzones available today. This is purely meant to be informative and used as a learning tool and reference to hopefully find some things you did not necessarily know before. I will break it down by the three different warzones. I play a Jedi Shadow so my tips might have perspectives based on certain abilities (like Force Speed) that may not apply to all classes. If you have any tricks, hints, or tips that you think I should add please post and I’ll add them. If you like what you see give it a +1 and maybe it’ll get stickied with helpful information.

 

This will be especially helpful to newer players whom for example may not know of certain power-up locations in the maps. I see a lot of players skipping the power-ups in the 10-49 bracket.

 

This is not a thread to discuss advantages, disadvantages, fairness, balance, etc. If you see something you think is unfair, please create another thread to discuss it as to not clutter up this one.

 

I will try to find videos depicting certain items. This will take time so check back for updates.

 

Alderaan

 

Hop to the middle trick - This trick enables players to more quickly get to the middle area from the sides. On either side there is a ramp leading UNDER the middle area used as a shortcut to get from one side to the other. If you jump up the left ramp going up towards the wall, you’ll find yourself in a mini-platform. From here you can jump up on the rungs and up onto the wall. If you walk around to the left there is an opening between the high wall and the adjacent wall which you can jump down and instantly find yourself in the middle. (Easier to see with video)

Far side speeders - This may seem very obvious to most, but to newer players they might have missed this as they do not appear at the start of the match. If you cap the far left or far right node, a new speeder will appear in the spawn point. If you take this “far left” or “far right” speeder it will take you directly to the left or right nodes, reducing the necessary travel times. This is EXTREMELY helpful if you are defending a node under attack, die, and need to get back to the fight quickly to prevent capture.

Hiding while defending the side nodes - If defending the Left or Right cap: a good place to hide is to sit yourself on one of the the ramps. You'll still have great visibility for any incoming players, but they won't see you till they're just about there.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...onAlderaan.jpg

 

Power-up Locations:

This will be said from the perspective of the starting point. Each item is mirrored exactly on the other side.

Side Nodes - If you go to the left node from the starting point, there is a heal power up located near the left hand wall on the way to the node.

If you go to the right node from the starting point, there are two power ups you can get: a Heal power up and an Expertise power up. As you go right, if you hug the right wall and turn around as you go up a hill, there is a heal power-up around the corner. If you hug the right wall and continue forward towards the node, there is an expertise power up about halfway to the node.

When coming from the middle area where you drop down into the side area there is an expertise power-up at each drop in point.

Middle Node - There are two expertise power-ups, one up on each ledge. They are located on the right ledge on the side closest to you if you are coming from your spawn point.

Under the middle node/Side to side passage - There are two speed power-ups under the middle area. They are in the corners of the the cross shaped walls facing you as you come down the ramp from either side.

 

 

Huttball

 

HighCommander made a GREAT Huttball 101 guide here. Definitely a good reference for first time players.

 

Great PvP Video of some 50's doing it right. The one from the perspective of the assassin/shadow shows the force speed jumps over the acid pit and past the fire in huttball.

 

Force Speed over acid pit - If you have force speed or any equivalent you can speed jump over the acid pits in the middle area. This is especially helpful at the beginning of the game to get the ball first. If you save your force speed until after you drop down and are at the top of the ramp, you can force speed jump over the acid pit and get the huttball before anybody else. If you combine this with having a teammate go left or right on the rafters at the start and stand above the air vent, you can pass it to them for a huge advantage as most opponents will be battling in the middle.

Force Speed past the fire - I’ve seen this done but have yet to do it myself. It is very tricky and takes practice to do. On the top rafters when coming up the ramp from the air vent it is possible to force speed jump diagonally past the fire, even when carrying the huttball. This is a HUGE move if the fire is up as it will stop most opponents from pursuing you as they’d be stuck behind the fire. Basically you must angle yourself to face behind the fire’s back column, hit force speed, jump, and hope you hit it. With enough practice you will be able to pull this off consistently.

Pull the ball carrier to victory - Several classes have the ability to pull their companion to them. This is very helpful in Huttball. You can pull the ball carrier from the ground up to the rafters, or through the fire, or up to the opposing goal area. By pulling the ball carrier you create a huge gap between them and the would be pursuers.

Pull/Push enemy into the fire - Several classes have the ability to pull the ENEMY to them (Kinetic Shadows/Sith Equiv, Bounty Hunters). If you position yourself right you can pull the enemy to the fire and get a free kill. I saw the other day a BH pulled the ball carrier into the fire closest to the goal. This resulted in the ball carrier dying and the ball going to the BH, in which he had a free run for an easy goal. The same thing can be done with knock backs or force push, except you need to be near the enemy to do this.

Stun, root, slow enemy on fire - The most common trick in Huttball is to stun or root the ball carrier as they are crossing the fire. This usually results in enough time for the fire to come on and kill the ball carrier. You should watch for the enemies resolve bar, if it is fully white you cannot stun them, but you can still root and slow them. As a counter to this, it is a good idea to save stun immunity skills like resilience for when you are crossing the fire area.

Force Leap/Charge your way to victory - Juggernauts and Knights get the ability to force leap/charge which basically takes you to the target. This is amazing in Huttball as a ball carrier. If you have the ball, you can easily Force Leap/Charge to an opponent on a rafter or in the opposing area. The biggest tip here is not how to do it, but how to prevent it. If you see aball carrier with two light sabers, do NOT stand on a ledge somewhere near the goal. Drop down to prevent the ball carrier from force leaping to you for an easy score. Assume the enemy knows what they are doing.

Throw the ball away if you are about to die - If you are being swarmed by the enemy as the ball carrier and there are no friendlies around you, it is much better to throw the ball away then let the enemy have the ball. If you throw the ball on an empty piece of ground, it will reset to the middle after a few seconds. This is a very good defensive tactic to prevent the enemy from getting the ball. In addition to this, if you are a stealther you can use Force Cloak or similar ability to accomplish the same thing. If you go stealth while carrying the ball it will automatically reset the ball. This is much quicker and guaranteed than tossing it away, however you do use up your force cloak ability.

Jump up on ledge from air vent while avoiding the RNG - Any player can actually jump up onto the ledge from the air vent. The area around the actual vent is slightly raised and you can actually use this to jump up onto the ledge. This is extremely useful when carrying the ball or pursuing someone, or just in general. See video for demonstration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJbcTdUwNAY

 

Power-up Locations:

There are four heal power-ups, one in each corner of the map next to the chained fence on the pit side. This is also right up the ramp from the pit.

There are two expertise power-ups, one on each side across from the air vents. If you look on the map there are nooks on the side of the map half way between bases. Inside these nooks are the expertise power-ups.

There are two speed power-ups, one in each pit. The are next to the middle column on the side facing the opposing base. It is common to use these speed power-ups to reach the heal power-ups up the ramp.

 

 

Voidstar

 

Knock opponents off the bridge - This too may be very obvious for most, but it’s a good thing to know for newer players. Several advanced classes get a knock back, and each of those advanced classes can knock opponents off the bridge in the second area. This will instantly kill them and count as a kill for you. It is also a good idea to keep this in mind defensively as the enemy will try to knock you off as well. I have several times popped resilience in anticipation of an enemy trying to knock me off and saved my life.

“Hidden Nooks” in the middle of the first and second areas - This isn’t so much a trick as it is general knowledge. In both the first and second areas there is a big box like structure that you fall onto from the spawn to engage in the combat. The hint is this box is not flush against the wall and you can go behind it. This is a GREAT hiding place to run away to and heal up to full without fear of being attacked.

Hide behind the bridge controls in the second area - When trying to extend the first set of bridges you should position yourself between the large column and the edge of the pit. It is much harder for defenders to knock you off the cap.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...onVoidstar.jpg

Harpoon (Pull) your enemies off the bridge - If your a PT (Pyrotech) or VG (Vanguard), or Tank Shadow/Assassin you can harpoon/force pull enemies off the bridge by standing on the very edge of a corner when you do it, thus pulling the enemy in front of you which is off the edge.

Eye for an Eye - With the same classes who can pull enemies (PT, VG, JS, SA) if you get knocked off the bridge, or anywhere, you can pull/harpoon in mid air taking the enemy with you. This can be done in retaliation for being knocked off if you have quick reflexes, or purposeful if you want to take out a touch enemy opponent at the cost of your own life.

Back from the dead - With a class with force leap (Guardian/Juggernaut) if you get knocked off the edge of the bridge (or rafters in huttball) you can do a force leap in mid air to get back in the fight.

Jump over the middle gap in the second area - Consulars/Inquisitors can force speed across the gap in the middle of the second area. This nearly always gets the jump on the other team if no bridge is up, plus you can grab the speed power-up at the other side to arm the wall faster. Two of these classes being stealth classes is just further icing on this trick (not sure if it can be done while stealth, the jump isn't easy). You can also use abilities like Force Leap and Harpoon to jump across the gap or pull friends/enemies across the gap.

Video for jumping the gap

Hit Bridge Cappers with Ranged AOE on Defense - When the enemy are capping the bridges and you're on defense and have died and are waiting for the bridges to cap: You can hit the cappers with death field/Force In Balance. This is available to the Share Tree Spec for Consulars and Inquisitors. I assume it is possible with other ranged AOE as well but has yet to be confirmed. NEW!

 

Power-up Locations:

Voidstar power-ups are the most “hidden” out of the three warzones, thus you are most likely to not notice them and bypass an advantage.

The first area has three power ups: two heals and an expertise. The two heal power-ups are on the far sides of the maps near the doors, in a nook around the corner. If you follow the door away from the spawn and around the corner you will find a heal power-up. The expertise is the most obvious as it’s directly in the middle under the walk way. Every player should immediately head there at the start of the game, especially if you are an attacker. If you are attacking and re-spawn, always check the middle area first to see if the expertise power-up is available before heading to the doors.

The second area has five power ups: two heals, two expertise, and a speed. The two heal power-ups are located similarly to the first area, around the corner on the far side of the doors.

The two expertise power-ups are located on the raised platforms on both sides of the bridges. The first one is almost exactly where you fall down from the attacking spawn, in between both bridge terminals. The second one is up the raise platform across from the defending spawn. Both are easily visible.

The speed power up is “hidden” behind the raised plat form on the side of the bridges with the doors. It is not immediately visible as players rarely go back there and it psuedo blends in with the background.

The third area has four power-ups: Two heals and two expertise. One heal power-up is near the “Northern” door under the ramp. The other heal power-up is near the “East” door, just to the right of it on the wall. One expertise power-up is located under the middle ramp coming from the force fields. This is probably the most hidden power-up in all three war zones. The last expertise power-up is located on the right wall when entering the area past the force field. If you take the first set of stairs leading down on the right hand side and go straight you'll run right into it

 

Hopefully this helps the newer players out there and maybe some seasoned players found something new? I will add more as I find it and if you post things that I missed I will gladly add it to the list. I again will also be looking for videos to help describe locations and tricks as I find them.

 

Please thumbs up if you find this helpful to newer players.

 

Thanks to the following people for their additions:

Jandor_Ziska

xPVTx

LankySpanky

Rockstar

pinkfreudHC

Moddim

Sarlin

Khadroth

Paralassa (for sticky )

CrunchyGremlin

xDJFx

Edited March 5, 2012 by Delavager

Reserved for additional and future content.

Just a small edit, not all advanced classes have knock backs. At least my Operative doesn't.. I'm fairly sure that assassins, inquisitors, mercenaries, jugs, and snipers all have at least one knock back. I may have missed a class, though. Powertechs? Marauders?

Just a small edit, not all advanced classes have knock backs. At least my Operative doesn't.. I'm fairly sure that assassins, inquisitors, mercenaries, jugs, and snipers all have at least one knock back. I may have missed a class, though. Powertechs? Marauders?

 

Yeah powertechs don't have a knockback either

You only need one tip. Roll a Sorcerer or Sage.

Just a small edit, not all advanced classes have knock backs. At least my Operative doesn't.. I'm fairly sure that assassins, inquisitors, mercenaries, jugs, and snipers all have at least one knock back. I may have missed a class, though. Powertechs? Marauders?

 

My apologies, I'll make the edit. I forgot about that.

Just a small edit, not all advanced classes have knock backs. At least my Operative doesn't.. I'm fairly sure that assassins, inquisitors, mercenaries, jugs, and snipers all have at least one knock back. I may have missed a class, though. Powertechs? Marauders?

 

 

 

Mercenaries and sorcerers have a knockback, so all classes have a knockback.

Working as intended.

 

 

Not sure what all the classes you mention are. Must be another game.

Edited February 6, 2012 by ShizuXIII

Bump for new players!

Bump for a break from rants and crying!

Would like some support getting this some views as it falls off the first page so fast. It's a legit attempt at something constructive and helpful in a forum that is devoid of guides save 2.

Below are some things that many people do but perhaps some haven't thought of...

 

You could add stunning people in the fire/acid in huttball, Bounty hunters with grapple pulling people into the fire/acid, knockbacks into the fire/acid, etc...

 

Ball carriers can jump down into the pit so the entire apposing team follows them, then pass back onto the catwalk to a waiting teammate.

 

Sorcs/sages can pull a carrier up onto the catwalks.

 

Jug tanks can basically charge/intercede their way to victory (Charge enemy sorc standing on catwalk pewpewing, intercede to friendly player on the other side of the fire, profit.) Powertechs can at least do the charging part of that.

 

You can use the air vent as a RNG escape route since who knows where it will throw you.

 

Yarp

The last area in Voidstar has 4 Power Ups not 3. 2 Expertise and 2 Heals. The Expertise not mentioned is very easy to see. If you take the first set of stairs leading down on the right hand side and go straight you'll run right into it almost. Edited February 6, 2012 by xPVTx

In Alderaan:

 

If defending the Left or Right cap: a good place to hide is to sit yourself on one of the the ramps. You'll still have great visibility for any incoming players, but they won't see you till they're just about there.

 

In Voidstar:

 

When trying to extend the first set of bridges you should position yourself between the large column and the edge of the pit. It is much harder for defenders to knock you off the cap.

 

I'll try to post some screencaps to give an idea.

Good additions, I'll make updates soon

Updates Added

This'd be a nice post for a sticky, info on PvP is not easy to come by for new players. I think this post is worth it for mention of the side speeders alone.

In Voidstar if you are a healer you can hide inside the door, a little to the right of where the attackers plant their bomb. Melee and ranged won't be able to target you with direct attacks.

Maybe im reaching a bit here. But a lot of these strategies further validate the fact that the Shadow/ Sorc classes have far to many abilities at their disposal. A lot of these strategies cant be done by other classes.

 

but thank you for the very informative information

In Alderaan:

 

If you're a stealther, position yourself on top of a cap in stealth if possible. For Shadows/Assassins, drop down and hit the knockback. I am unsure if this will work while on top of the cap.

Voidstar: Pretty well known, but should be added for new players. If your a PT or VG you can harpoon enemies off the bridge by standing on the very edge of a corner when you do it.

 

Also, and my personal favorite, what I call the "to do what we must" tactic: if there is a pesky guarded healer who is carrying the entire enemy team and you absolutely have to get rid of him, but you can't get to a corner of the bridge in time, jump off the bridge, harpoon the healer, take him with you. Or, if you get knocked back, harpoon the guy as well.

 

*EDIT* One more: If you happen to get knocked off anything and you have a storm/force leap, if you have the enemy targeted, you can actually storm/force leap right back to them....even if your falling off the bridge in voidstar. I'm actually curious if this could be used in conjunction to the "to do what what we must" tactic, but I haven't been able to pull it off yet lol.

Edited February 7, 2012 by Rockstar

For Alderaan and Voidstar, if you are on Defense/Defending a node use DoTs on the attackers. Unlike most games where only the initial tick of a DoT interrupts capping a node, in this game each tick of your DoT interrupts capping. This means you can DoT a handful of players and ensure that none of them will be able to cap for a good number of seconds, even if they kill you. On Alderaan if you have a sufficiently long DoT you can solo defend a side turret by using DoTs and the fastest speeder route.

Nice thread! Thanks for all the helpful tips.

In case someone hasn't said it yet.

 

In HuttBall if you throw the ball on an empty part of ground the ball resets back to middle, this is VERY useful if the enemy has a zerg in your Nzone and you just killed the ball carrier and received the ball. The amount of people who don't know this and instead try to run the ball with an entire enemy zerg on them from their Nzone to the enemies is amazing.

Lots of additions, this is good.

 

Give me a lil to get them updated.

 

Also I don't know how to request a sticky, anybody have any ideas?

Maybe im reaching a bit here. But a lot of these strategies further validate the fact that the Shadow/ Sorc classes have far to many abilities at their disposal. A lot of these strategies cant be done by other classes.

 

but thank you for the very informative information

 

I don't disagree with you per se, but there are existing threads that talk about the versatility of consulars/inquisitors vs other classes in Huttball already and I'd rather keep any debates about balance to other threads.