countdemons Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As the title suggests, Im interested to know who has world 1st clears of all the nim ops starting at df and dp and all the way back to kp ev and ec, and now only HM's , but thats a different topic.... For instance ToS HM - Zorz world 1st I believe they got rav world 1st also no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndoEyrune Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As the title suggests, Im interested to know who has world 1st clears of all the nim ops starting at df and dp and all the way back to kp ev and ec, and now only HM's , but thats a different topic.... For instance ToS HM - Zorz world 1st I believe they got rav world 1st also no? Zorz also got world first Dread Council, Seven Stuck got world first Brontes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic__ Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Been awhile so I apologize if I'm wrong but I think severity had it for snv and tfb didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofalong Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 You should probably clarify for 8m or 16m. Based on your first post, I think you mean 8m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofalong Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I linked progression sheets where possible. 8m HM ToS & Rav - Zorz NiM DP - Zorz NiM DF - 7Stuck S&V - Drop It Like It's Hoth NiM TfB - Drop It Like It's Hoth NiM EC - ??? NiM KP & EV - who cares? As far as I know these are the guilds that first killed the final boss while also killing all of the previous bosses on the corresponding difficulty setting. I tried to capture the 16m clears, but there was less activity/record keeping here. Still, I know Zorz first cleared 16m HM ToS & Rav. I believe Severity was the first and only 16m NiM DP. I will look for the others too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 I linked progression sheets where possible. 8m HM ToS & Rav - Zorz NiM DP - Zorz NiM DF - 7Stuck S&V - Drop It Like It's Hoth NiM TfB - Drop It Like It's Hoth NiM EC - ??? NiM KP & EV - who cares? As far as I know these are the guilds that first killed the final boss while also killing all of the previous bosses on the corresponding difficulty setting. I tried to capture the 16m clears, but there was less activity/record keeping here. Still, I know Zorz first cleared 16m HM ToS & Rav. I believe Severity was the first and only 16m NiM DP. I will look for the others too. There have been other 16 dp nim clears. Not Good Enough on ToFN cleared it when it was current. Not sure if their 16 man kill was with nightmare buff still active or not though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 You should probably clarify for 8m or 16m. Based on your first post, I think you mean 8m. Irrelevant. World 1st means who killed the boss 1st. Only interested in who killed bosses 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofalong Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Irrelevant. World 1st means who killed the boss 1st. Only interested in who killed bosses 1st OK, but you realize they are effectively different contests? I've not heard of anyone else lumping them together, but whatever. It's safe to assume 8m clears always came first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncenaultimate Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 EC NiM World First: achieved by Archetype on Red Eclipse server https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrl6ng-0y8FGmZ8oF2LXIDmKF_JooJWRaakFLF2KbOU/pub?output=html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 EC NiM World First: achieved by Archetype on Red Eclipse server https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrl6ng-0y8FGmZ8oF2LXIDmKF_JooJWRaakFLF2KbOU/pub?output=html **** there was 7 minutes between the 1st and 2nd kill Thats awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Anyone have info on EV and KP nim 1sts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Must be a young men's thing : "I was the first !" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) I really don't know who had EV/KP NiM world first 5/5. I'm not sure it's particularly relevant, since neither instance required much skill to complete at level. Soa was the hardest boss of the set, mostly because of the bugs, but also partially because the damage was extremely high in places (due to bugs) and certain mechanics overlapping could cause unavoidable death, forcing raids to actually, you know, coordinate. I know for a fact that NiM Soa was cleared by the end of January 2013, and I believe it was cleared before the end of December 2012. I saw an article pre-1.1 about a guild getting it down (I think on Darth Hater), but I can't find it now. My server's first clear of NiM Soa was by The Code on March 10, 2013 (though there were at least two other progression guilds rivaling them, and it's possible they got it first; I can't remember). To my knowledge, they cleared NiM KP before they killed Soa, and I don't believe they were the first on my server to get Karagga. So that sets up an early-February timeline for NiM KP clears. Wow… Everyone sucked back then. :-D In any case, world firsts basically don't matter anymore except as a historical curiosity. I like to think a bit about which group (or if you prefer, which super-group) transcended their game era and would have been more dominant than competition in other eras. For example, would Zorz have gotten world first NiM EC Kephess? Would they have beaten DiLiH to the Dread Guard clear? (related: which Zorz, because they changed a fair bit between DP and ToS) What about NiM EC era Ace? Their EC Kephess 16 man kill is still one of the most inspiring kill videos I've ever seen; would they have out-progressed Severity in their prime (i.e. NiM S&V)? Edited February 3, 2016 by KeyboardNinja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncenaultimate Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 i did a bit more searching, it looks like for EV NiM, the guild Irae had world first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D66Fy3s6WA8 For KP NiM, it looks like Solitude had world first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyroman Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 This thread makes me sad for what used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire-breath Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 NiM TfB - Drop It Like It's Hoth As far as I know these are the guilds that first killed the final boss while also killing all of the previous bosses on the corresponding difficulty setting. Gehe good times That was really popcorn time. Is Death & Taxes still around btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor-Norton Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) EC - Archetype (8 man) & Ace (16 man) TfB - DiLiH (8 man) & Severity Gaming (16man) S&V - DiLiH (8 man) & Severity Gaming (16man) DF - Seven Stuck (8 man) & Ace (16 man) DP - Zorz (8 man) & Severity Gaming (16 man) Zorz got first for HM Rav and ToS, 8 and 16. 16 man was dead at that point though. Zorz got World First for Gate Crasher (DF). Suckafish got World First for From Beyond (TfB). Hatred got World First for Dragonslayer (S&V). I don't know who got first 8 man Warstalker. Other than that, everyone who got first clear also got timed run on tier except for 16 man DP (no one got it on tier). Edited February 3, 2016 by Emperor-Norton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Zorz got World First for Gate Crasher (DF). Suckafish got first From Beyond (TfB). Hatred got first Dragonslayer (S&V). I don't know who got first 8 man Warstalker. Other than that, everyone who got first clear also got timed run on tier except for 16 man DP (no one got it on tier). Hatred was NA first Dragonslayer (world 3rd). I don't remember which two guilds got it before they did, but they were both EU. Looks like world first Warstalker was Nostrum Dolus, on 11/20/2012. (source: http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=5763116&postcount=21) Edit: Actually, looks like I might be misremembering on Hatred? I wonder if I was thinking of the NiM S&V clear itself, rather than the timed run. Edited February 3, 2016 by KeyboardNinja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor-Norton Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Hatred was NA first Dragonslayer (world 3rd). I don't remember which two guilds got it before they did, but they were both EU. Looks like world first Warstalker was Nostrum Dolus, on 11/20/2012. (source: http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=5763116&postcount=21) Edit: Actually, looks like I might be misremembering on Hatred? I wonder if I was thinking of the NiM S&V clear itself, rather than the timed run. Yeah Hatred was third clear, first Title. DiLiH never cared for timed runs and used their lockouts getting kills for the rest of the guild. While Suckafish lost Gorband after their clear and never really recovered. Edited February 3, 2016 by Emperor-Norton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 EC - Archetype (8 man) & Ace (16 man) TfB - DiLiH (8 man) & Severity Gaming (16man) S&V - DiLiH (8 man) & Severity Gaming (16man) DF - Seven Stuck (8 man) & Ace (16 man) DP - Zorz (8 man) & Severity Gaming (16 man) Zorz got first for HM Rav and ToS, 8 and 16. 16 man was dead at that point though. Zorz got World First for Gate Crasher (DF). Suckafish got World First for From Beyond (TfB). Hatred got World First for Dragonslayer (S&V). I don't know who got first 8 man Warstalker. Other than that, everyone who got first clear also got timed run on tier except for 16 man DP (no one got it on tier). I believe Not Good Enough on ToFN got timed on 16 with buff still active but not totally sure. Would need curt to confirm that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Must be a young men's thing : "I was the first !" plzstop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor-Norton Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I believe Not Good Enough on ToFN got timed on 16 with buff still active but not totally sure. Would need curt to confirm that Nah they did get a pre-nerf kill, but it was a week before the Operation got nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuvonDrake Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) I believe Not Good Enough on ToFN got timed on 16 with buff still active but not totally sure. Would need curt to confirm that Nah they did get a pre-nerf kill, but it was a week before the Operation got nerfed. Don't remember the exact date, but we killed DP Nightmare in the absolute end of Nightmare power on 16man, got kill + timed early on 8man tho. Edited February 4, 2016 by RikuvonDrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimsblood Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I really don't know who had EV/KP NiM world first 5/5. I'm not sure it's particularly relevant, since neither instance required much skill to complete at level. Soa was the hardest boss of the set, mostly because of the bugs, but also partially because the damage was extremely high in places (due to bugs) and certain mechanics overlapping could cause unavoidable death, forcing raids to actually, you know, coordinate. I know for a fact that NiM Soa was cleared by the end of January 2013, and I believe it was cleared before the end of December 2012. I saw an article pre-1.1 about a guild getting it down (I think on Darth Hater), but I can't find it now. My server's first clear of NiM Soa was by The Code on March 10, 2013 (though there were at least two other progression guilds rivaling them, and it's possible they got it first; I can't remember). To my knowledge, they cleared NiM KP before they killed Soa, and I don't believe they were the first on my server to get Karagga. So that sets up an early-February timeline for NiM KP clears. Wow… Everyone sucked back then. :-D In any case, world firsts basically don't matter anymore except as a historical curiosity. I like to think a bit about which group (or if you prefer, which super-group) transcended their game era and would have been more dominant than competition in other eras. For example, would Zorz have gotten world first NiM EC Kephess? Would they have beaten DiLiH to the Dread Guard clear? (related: which Zorz, because they changed a fair bit between DP and ToS) What about NiM EC era Ace? Their EC Kephess 16 man kill is still one of the most inspiring kill videos I've ever seen; would they have out-progressed Severity in their prime (i.e. NiM S&V)? I like this idea that your bring up. I can speak to the comparison between Ace and Severity in their prime. Severity would have taken it hands down. We were not very good back in NiM EC. Probably just a hair above our lowest. NiM EC inspired us to restructure and commit to actually making a world first a reality. Back then, Ace was better. But not by leaps and bounds. Just enough to get Kephess first. I want to say we were like 3 or 4 to get him. I don't remember back then too well. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 Severity not play this game anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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