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Umbradomina
11.13.2013 , 06:08 AM | #1
OK ladies, Season 1 has been open for almost a day. What's your take on the state of our class as it relates to Ranked Arenas? I ask primarily from a solo/pug perspective, as the dynamic for teams would differ.

My personal experience as an Arsenal Merc on Pot5 was wretched, though not entirely unexpected. Still highly focused, wtfpwned by stealth with no way to extricate myself from the gang rape. Granted, they were pugs. However, if my teammates had done arenas before (and of course they all had), they'd know that Mercs/Sorcs are the most highly focused. So why all the whining when the Merc is dead in 3-5 GCDs from when the fighting starts. Don't they watch what is going on around them?

Anyway, enough of my whining about my experiences. What were yours?
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Dajman
11.13.2013 , 09:22 AM | #2
Arena is a desperate move to get a game into MLG.... If it isn't balanced in arena now you can well bet your balls on the fact that the gap of imba will only widen as time goes on. Whats with every MMO being so desperate for MLG style arena? Its boring and over done. The worst part.... If I PvP I am forced to do it.

As for mercs... We get shut down well and hard enough but that's PvP. There are ways to lessen it which is all just about learning to position correctly. Every arena has space to set up the enemy when they come at you. Smart playing and CDs can only do so much for a class with no real escape though. The best kiter of the class cant hold back 4 people alone when they want to kill him.... Your team opens its eyes and peels for you or you will be a bug on the enemies screen.

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Umbradomina
11.13.2013 , 09:29 AM | #3
That's been pretty much my experience. I'm told I'm a decent player (no, not the best... far from it). I guess I found it frustrating that here I was being focused, and a Sorc on our team couldn't be bothered stopping his FL long enough to pull me out of the mess. Then this idiot had the nerve to jump my $h!t after the match about low dps.

Know what I'd really like to see in the arenas (ranked and unranked)? Remove visibility of the opposition. Do we really need to see what classes are on the other side? Personally, I think it would balance things a lot more. But that's a discussion for the PVP forum.
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TezMoney
11.13.2013 , 10:32 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbradomina View Post
That's been pretty much my experience. I'm told I'm a decent player (no, not the best... far from it). I guess I found it frustrating that here I was being focused, and a Sorc on our team couldn't be bothered stopping his FL long enough to pull me out of the mess. Then this idiot had the nerve to jump my $h!t after the match about low dps.

Know what I'd really like to see in the arenas (ranked and unranked)? Remove visibility of the opposition. Do we really need to see what classes are on the other side? Personally, I think it would balance things a lot more. But that's a discussion for the PVP forum.
I'm a merc healer and arena's happen either 2 ways. The enemy focuses me and it's a race to see which healer survives the longest (fortunately I usually win these), or they feel it's easier to focusing the squishiest dps on the team. My only issue w/ arena is that i'm often paired with 3 dps, so I'm pretty much at the mercy of their rotations and ability to down a player first, I hardly get any peels of cc's, or taunts. The tunnel vision people get in pvp is only amplified in arena's, and awareness still remains the greatest skill a pvp player can have.

As for your idea of not showing classes... I think it's a bad one. First off, it would only work for the 1st round so what's the point? Why is it balanced for 1 round to be different from the other 2? Secondly, the reason there is so much time before the match starts, is so the team can form a strategy and/or counter-strategy before the 1st match starts. Without knowing who you're against it would be impossible to do this, and arenas would be even more of a brainless deathmatch than they are now.

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Phrase
11.13.2013 , 01:22 PM | #5
Only two mercs in the top 50 solo q ranked. Just sayin'.

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MrSIlverSurfing
11.13.2013 , 01:43 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbradomina View Post
My personal experience as an Arsenal Merc on Pot5 was wretched, though not entirely unexpected. Still highly focused, wtfpwned by stealth with no way to extricate myself from the gang rape. Granted, they were pugs. However, if my teammates had done arenas before (and of course they all had), they'd know that Mercs/Sorcs are the most highly focused. So why all the whining when the Merc is dead in 3-5 GCDs from when the fighting starts. Don't they watch what is going on around them?

Anyway, enough of my whining about my experiences. What were yours?
He is right. It is terrible. Something has to be done about merc defense.

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NathanielStarr
11.13.2013 , 02:41 PM | #7
Dying almost instantly even if I pop shield, koilto overload, hydraulics and try to run. I get stunned and if I don't break it I die during the stun duration and if I do break it I get stunned again. A 25% shield is nothing.

I don't understand why we have to suffer with being interrupted when other classes with the same damage and better defenses do not. I feel we do not receive a benefit for the weakness that is casted abilities. There is no trade off.

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Umbradomina
11.13.2013 , 03:28 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Phrase View Post
Only two mercs in the top 50 solo q ranked. Just sayin'.
Might this stat be due to Mercs not bothering to run solo ranked? Not only am I personally tired of getting whacked inside of 15s of the first engagement (not matter where/how I position myself), my real issue is my teammate's attitudes... like I want to have that happen. Perhaps other Mercs feel the same way.

Sure, it's a ranked WZ... and I'm fully Conq geared/augmented and about half Obroan. Therefore, I'd say I'm qualified to queue for them. So what is with all the BS from one's group when they know you're going to be focused, and they do nothing to mitigate it?

How do we respectfully remind each other that it's a team effort?

Today I found other stuff to do IRL rather than run solo ranked. Jesus, what does that say about me?
Old age and treachery will usually win out over youth and skill.

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NathanielStarr
11.13.2013 , 04:52 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbradomina View Post
Might this stat be due to Mercs not bothering to run solo ranked? Not only am I personally tired of getting whacked inside of 15s of the first engagement (not matter where/how I position myself), my real issue is my teammate's attitudes... like I want to have that happen. Perhaps other Mercs feel the same way.

Sure, it's a ranked WZ... and I'm fully Conq geared/augmented and about half Obroan. Therefore, I'd say I'm qualified to queue for them. So what is with all the BS from one's group when they know you're going to be focused, and they do nothing to mitigate it?

How do we respectfully remind each other that it's a team effort?

Today I found other stuff to do IRL rather than run solo ranked. Jesus, what does that say about me?
I don't think there would be more in the top even if more mercs ran solo (not many running group either btw). I guess we need to figure out what is the average rating for mercs by adding up all the ratings and dividing by the number of mercs. My guess would be about 1100.

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MrSIlverSurfing
11.14.2013 , 08:56 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbradomina View Post
Might this stat be due to Mercs not bothering to run solo ranked? Not only am I personally tired of getting whacked inside of 15s of the first engagement (not matter where/how I position myself), my real issue is my teammate's attitudes... like I want to have that happen. Perhaps other Mercs feel the same way.

Sure, it's a ranked WZ... and I'm fully Conq geared/augmented and about half Obroan. Therefore, I'd say I'm qualified to queue for them. So what is with all the BS from one's group when they know you're going to be focused, and they do nothing to mitigate it?

How do we respectfully remind each other that it's a team effort?

Today I found other stuff to do IRL rather than run solo ranked. Jesus, what does that say about me?
I agree. I get destroyed within a few seconds of the match then I get rage whispers. You can just go into general chat and hear people complaining about mercs being in their ranked matches which equates to a loss. I have PVPed since EQ1 and this is my worst experience so far. I'm not enjoying the PVP, thats for certain.