DnomiaD Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself. Or that's what he wanted you to think, Sidious. Well played Plagueis, well played. Kylo Ren - "The Supreme Leader is wise." Indeed, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1MzJXfGo Listen, the similarity is obvious. What was Palpatine talking in that scene? Darth Plagueis the Wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectuvius Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Or that's what he wanted you to think, Sidious. Well played Plagueis, well played. Kylo Ren - "The Supreme Leader is wise." Indeed, he is. If he turns out to be Plagueis i would get a nerdboner so fierce it would punch a hole in the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychopyro Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 All I could see was Supreme Leader Gollum... Yes I know same guy... but I mean they could have worked a little harder to not make him look like Gollum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukewarcriminal Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolfunk Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 All I could see was Supreme Leader Gollum... Yes I know same guy... but I mean they could have worked a little harder to not make him look like Gollum... Me too. Darth Gollum. However, I liked it anyway. I won't be surprised if they try to tie Snoke to Plagueis. Though, I thought Darth Plagueis was a member of the muun species, and Snoke is most certainly not that. What I think... I think Snoke's hate for Luke Skywalker is tied to all of his scarring. I wouldn't be surprised if Kylo Ren killed off the other students at the behest of Snoke whom wanted to get some form of revenge on Luke for having wounded him in the past. More realistic is that Snoke's features actually look like the original concept art of the Emperor drawn on the story boards for plan during Return of the Jedi. The emperor was only shown as a head and barely had his face revealed (he had different prosthetics around the eyes in his first appearance vs Return of Jedi). He was original drawn as being tall and very gaunt. Much like what Snoke appears to be. Time will tell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanguVegro Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Funny that you should mention Gollum, when all I thought when I saw Snoke was "Hey, what's Azog the Defiler doing in Star Wars?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arubboth Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I'll be dissapointed if it turns that Supreme Leader is the Villain, I hope the Sith working behind the scenes hasn't showed up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I'll be dissapointed if it turns that Supreme Leader is the Villain, I hope the Sith working behind the scenes hasn't showed up yet. Who said that Snoke is not a Sith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulftun Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Supreme Leader Snoke: There's been an awakening. Have you felt it? That would imply Snoke can sense force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinecynic Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Got that would be epic no? I just get this image in my head of him commenting how is his young apprentice (Sidious) thought he killed him. I want him to say something like: "My time has come. For decades I prepared, grew stronger. While my apprentice rested in his cradle of power believing his people we safe and protected. He was trusted to lead the Republic but Palpatine was deceived, as my powers of the dark side blinded him. Vader was mine. I forged the instrument of my arrogant apprentice's death. He was deceived and now his republic shall fall." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyerix Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1MzJXfGo Listen, the similarity is obvious. What was Palpatine talking in that scene? Darth Plagueis the Wise. Ok that music. I would never have noticed till you posted these. Except you can hear it or something very very similar to it during the carbonite dream sequence in KotFE. Especially when talking to Valkorion at one point. I'm thinking I just heard this and remembered this post. I had stopped responding to him just to listen. Edited December 20, 2015 by Vyerix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renatolnsp Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 He is... Vitiate LOL Really, the only downside of the movie for me. Totally generic to call someone "Supreme Leader", even Grand Master is a better title, and it's disapointing that one of the best creative crews in the industry along with one of the best directors and screenwriters couldn't come up with something better. By the way, his name reminds me of someone from Harry Potter, that highly annoys me. And he definitely isn't a Sith, remember when Maz Karata said that she "saw the dark side take many forms" and complete with "The Sith, the empire..." And now the First Order. If he was one probably she would characterize him apropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodaz Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Supreme Leader Snoke: There's been an awakening. Have you felt it? That would imply Snoke can sense force. Also: Not only that, but he told General Hux to go get Ren and meet him to start Rens final training. Edited December 21, 2015 by Wodaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxetius Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 In the novelization he states he watched the galactic empire rise and fall so hes been around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phalczen Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) In the novelization he states he watched the galactic empire rise and fall so hes been around That's only about 46 galactic standard years. I doubt its Plageuis only because that would break the rule of two, and JJ Abrams has said Snoke/Ren are not Sith. Edited December 21, 2015 by phalczen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConVallian Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Got that would be epic no? I just get this image in my head of him commenting how is his young apprentice (Sidious) thought he killed him. I want him to say something like: "My time has come. For decades I prepared, grew stronger. While my apprentice rested in his cradle of power believing his people we safe and protected. He was trusted to lead the Republic but Palpatine was deceived, as my powers of the dark side blinded him. Vader was mine. I forged the instrument of my arrogant apprentice's death. He was deceived and now his republic shall fall." Give this man a cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConVallian Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 i have three theories 1 he is plageuis 2 he is a former sith apprentice who tried to over throw his master..and failed believed dead and came back into his own after the 2 sith lords died on the death star trying to create his own empire not a typical sith but was once a sith. 3 he is just a powerful being strong in the dark side who has been training on his own and is now strong enough to rule. I hope they release a novel filling in the gaps between 6 and 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianDavion Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) i have three theories 1 he is plageuis 2 he is a former sith apprentice who tried to over throw his master..and failed believed dead and came back into his own after the 2 sith lords died on the death star trying to create his own empire not a typical sith but was once a sith. 3 he is just a powerful being strong in the dark side who has been training on his own and is now strong enough to rule. I hope they release a novel filling in the gaps between 6 and 7 Here's a 4th for you. 4: He's a former Inqusitor. Totally generic to call someone "Supreme Leader", even Grand Master is a better title, and it's disapointing that one of the best creative crews in the industry along with one of the best directors and screenwriters couldn't come up with something better. They choose the title "supreme leader" for a VERY VERY specific reason though. The German word for leader is Fuherer, Itlian for "the leader" is il Duce. SW has always heavily implied the empire was facists etc. and TFA is basicly throwing away ANY subtly. compare and contrast https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/New-First-Order-shot-from-TFA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NG6yedF.jpg Edited December 21, 2015 by BrianDavion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConVallian Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Here's a 4th for you. 4: He's a former Inqusitor. They said he seen the rise and fall of the empire, i doubt he is an inquisitor but its still possible i guess. I hopeSnoke is not his real name though i hate that name, love the movie hate the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renatolnsp Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 They choose the title "supreme leader" for a VERY VERY specific reason though. The German word for leader is Fuherer, Itlian for "the leader" is il Duce. SW has always heavily implied the empire was facists etc. and TFA is basicly throwing away ANY subtly. compare and contrast https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/New-First-Order-shot-from-TFA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NG6yedF.jpg Makes sense, but it's still generic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothshark Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Here's a 4th for you. 4: He's a former Inqusitor. https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/New-First-Order-shot-from-TFA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NG6yedF.jpg Umm, The storm troopers straight up do a modified Sieg heil at one point. Also, Darth Gollum...I mean Das Fuehrer Snoke, is the Head of the Knights of Ren. As such we have no idea who they are, they use the Darkside, but seem to nurture Lightside as well. Also the implications are their order is ancient and hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDo Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 All I could see was Supreme Leader Gollum... Yes I know same guy... but I mean they could have worked a little harder to not make him look like Gollum...I kept seeing Emperor Voldemort and Darth Malfoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthScruffy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Valkorion!!!! /sings in a rap/hip hop style. Please let it be and let him be as flashy as he was in KotFE. He went from ascetic in the JK storyline to "conspicuous consumption" at the drop of a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianDavion Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Umm, The storm troopers straight up do a modified Sieg heil at one point. Also, Darth Gollum...I mean Das Fuehrer Snoke, is the Head of the Knights of Ren. As such we have no idea who they are, they use the Darkside, but seem to nurture Lightside as well. Also the implications are their order is ancient and hidden. are we sure Snoke is thier leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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