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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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-IceHawk-'s Avatar

03.26.2013 , 11:56 PM | #3991
Quote: Originally Posted by DaftVaduhhh View Post
Thank you for agreeing with my underlying logic, I honestly felt I was talking to someone who was towing the academic/corporate line.

I was inferring that you are, in fact, not that stupid. Hubris aside, you have demonstrated that.

I also happen to think that EA would be the kind of company to kick up a stink about a small retreat from a market place, likely to generate some local political discourse so they can get some incentives to come in and faff about the place. That's what big companies do when it won't make headlines the world over or they think they have a sizeable backing.
No. I think we are basically in agreement when it comes to EA and the fundamental logic behind the decision.

In so far as local-market shenanigans; I would honestly not be surprised, the modern iteration of EA engages in some rather bizarre decision making practices from time to time. Though in this case the decision was clearly going to engender this kind of response, so I think EA is done with APAC for good in so far as localized investment for TOR is concerned.

jack__'s Avatar

03.26.2013 , 11:57 PM | #3992
I would hardly say that GD is a dead server. PvP que times are perfectly reasonable and group finder works more than quick enough. The other day me and my friend qued for a group finder on our level 20 characters and got one in a minute. Likewise, we did one on our 50's and we only had a 2 minute wait.
In fact the guild I am in has started to cut down on the number of members as it was getting too large.
Americans have always been pampered in games with their low pings. In fact I have heard of people (in different games) rage quit because their ping was over 100, where Australians almost always have to cope with this. The fact that we had local servers for SWTOR was one of the main calling cards for the game.
I would be all for the APAC servers merging into one, as I like my low pings and fluidity I get from it. I am sure that the RP, PvE and PvP communities would be able to peacefully coexist on one APAC server, in fact I have heard of many people suggest this even before this recent announcement.

Icykill_'s Avatar

03.26.2013 , 11:57 PM | #3993
Quote: Originally Posted by grallmate View Post
I must say I find it quite amusing that most of the posters defending the merger are not affected by it while most of the players angered over the announcement are in fact affected by it. Really says something.
Yeah... I'm seeing that pattern too... you have to ask the question... just how many are Americans?

I'm sure if they had to Merge Harbinger with Dalbora they wouldn't be saying the things they are and would be equally outraged at EA

IF you AREN'T living in APAC... butt out of this thread... play on your American servers... why are you even on a APAC server to start with?

This Thread is for APAC players who want to voice their disgust at EA/BIO... not some American Troll who just wants to inflame the situation more and make it harder for us APAC players to get the message through to EA/BIO


Thornsbane's Avatar

03.26.2013 , 11:58 PM | #3994
Wow the same person has taken up most of this page with posts.

PseudoScience's Avatar

03.26.2013 , 11:58 PM | #3995
Put the link of the petition in your signatures guys. Lets get this thing mobilsed.

PseudoScience's Avatar

03.27.2013 , 12:00 AM | #3996
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornsbane View Post
Wow the same person has taken up most of this page with posts.
View it as enthusiasm for our community

iheartnyc's Avatar

03.27.2013 , 12:01 AM | #3997
Quote: Originally Posted by PseudoScience View Post
There is no point in trying to give our perspective to IceHawk he will just label it as irrational. He is nothing more than a troll masquerading as a "man of logic and reason". All his points are wild assumptions at best and I don't have the energy trying to educate him.

This issue is bigger than a couple of troll guys, lets focus back on the community and what we want in light of the circumstances.
Lol he is actually right though about EA's decision making process.

I deal with corporations everyday and what he said sounds spot on about how public companies such as EA make (and unmake) management decisions.

FYI this latest SEC filing:

EA is on track to revise its earlier estimates to record an even greater loss than expected. No wonder they are going to try and cut costs.

Also, from a purely business perspective, it seems clear that APAC just isn't profitable for SWTOR. I will do some more research into publicly filed documents.

Update 1:
For 4Q 2012: " $12 million or 18 percent increase in subscription and advertising sales primarily driven by Star Wars: The Old Republic".

Update 2:

"Cost of service and other revenue decreased by $9 million, or 12.0 percent in the three months ended December 31, 2012, as compared to the three months ended December 31, 2011. The decrease was primarily due to decreased server and support costs related to Star Wars: The Old Republic. This decrease is partially offset by an increase in royalties related costs associated with new releases."

Holy crap. EA managed to cut $9 million in costs in just 3 months from SWTOR. These "servers" and logistical support must cost a lot more than we had imagined.

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03.27.2013 , 12:06 AM | #3998
Quote: Originally Posted by jack__ View Post
I would hardly say that GD is a dead server. PvP que times are perfectly reasonable and group finder works more than quick enough. The other day me and my friend qued for a group finder on our level 20 characters and got one in a minute. Likewise, we did one on our 50's and we only had a 2 minute wait.
Try group finder alone as a dps and it will be a lot longer than a minute. Group finder when you're already grouped with someone (especially a tank or healer) is the only way to cut down the wait. It's even worse sub 50. In the past month I levelled a new sniper on imp side to 50. I most played during peak times and always played with group finder turned on while I was questing. In all that time I only had group finder pop 3 times and all 3 of them were when I was close to level 50 (collicoid, red reaper and d7). Only ever did a few heroic quests, some of them solo because on most planets there was never more than a handful of players. Usually single figure numbers. I was essentially playing a single player game most of that time.
Generally the only time I get to do any group content is when I schedule it with guild members. I don't pvp much but when I do, there's usually a fair wait before that pops also. I've always like space missions but I've been doing them more and more lately since it's the only dependable way to get bh coms, as there's no need to find other players to do it with.
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iheartnyc's Avatar

03.27.2013 , 12:07 AM | #3999
Quote: Originally Posted by Icykill_ View Post
Regardless what I have... a 220ms Ping is causing a 1-2 second delay... most PVPer's would agree that can be the difference between killing your opponent or dying...
Anyway if you are American... what do you care... it won't effect you... so go Troll someplace else and let the APAC players voice their opinions to EA/BIO... instead of you filling it up with your nonsense
Wow no. MILISECONDS. 220ms = 0.22 second.

OGsam's Avatar

03.27.2013 , 12:08 AM | #4000
Unsubbed. I can't play US servers with the ping I get from North West WA. I will instantly resubscribe if the changes are reverted.
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