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The Empire/Republic ships in TOR are wrong

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The Empire/Republic ships in TOR are wrong

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DarknessInLight
09.09.2014 , 05:52 PM | #61
You guys are forgetting one important fact between the time period the game takes place in and the time frame of the movies. During the time of the game, the Republic had a standing army and a navy. During the time of the Prequels, the Republic did not have an army or a navy to speak of. Didnt need one. The Sith had been believed destroyed a millennia prior and no one felt it was necessary anymore. The fleet was mothballed and the army disbanded.

Enter Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious who was granted by law the ability to great a Grand Army of the Republic(thanks a lot Jar Jar). Since he was in effect Supreme Commander of the Army, it just stands to reason he had influence on the design of the naval ships at that time, hence the obvious Sith influence on the Republic vessels. Don't you find it curious that the Republic's new navy at that time bears a striking similarity to the Sith Empire prior and the Galactic Empire once the Republic is converted?

The Rebel Alliance's vessels likewise shared a similarity with the historical navy of the Galactic Republic. So the ships in TOR are not wrong, but rather quite correct in their designs.
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ellesjames
09.16.2014 , 10:22 AM | #62
my thoughts exactly. Palatine is pretty blatant about his being SIth in the prequel movies in fact. for those who forgot or didn't know his office screams sith. The mans office is filled with paintings and statues and things that the Jedi really should have picked up on since they met with him once a week for over 10 years. It's Palatine mocking the jedi. It was intentional.

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Kaedusz
09.16.2014 , 04:24 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobsy View Post
Afraid you're over-thinking this. Star Wars is a fantasy rather than a solid, quantifiable history. The reason the Sith Empire has the same wedge-shaped ships as the Galactic Empire is because THEY EEEEVIL. And that's about that.
Any franchise worth it's salt has a solid quantifiable history.Fantasy or not, it doesn't matter.It has to be consistent and make sense in its universe.
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Aximand
09.18.2014 , 01:00 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by JacenHallis View Post
Don't be a douche, man. If you're going to correct someone, do it in a positive way. Also, the planet was Kamino; the people were Kaminoans.

The whole ship aesthetics issue comes down to one man: Palpatine.

Up until 1000 BBY, the Republic used ships like the Thranta and the Hammerhead, as we see in KOTOR and TOR. Sure, the designs change. For the most part, the Sith are the ones who use the wedge-shaped ships like the dreadnoughts in TOR.

Roughly 1000 BBY, something huge happened. The Sith were wiped out (or so the Republic thought). Because of this, certain things happened to the Republic, which are called the Ruusan Reformations. The specifics are not important. All you need to know is that, after Ruusan, the Republic no longer had a standing army. It relied on formal treaties and local law enforcement and militias to keep the peace. The Jedi themselves put away their armor and embraced a lifestyle of peace.

Fast forward to the Rise of the Empire era. Sidious had a clone army created. But, the Republic had no means of ferrying these troops around to wage war against the Separatists. What probably happened is Palpatine (either as Sifo-dyas or through him) offered old Sith schematics to some shipmakers (perhaps KDY), who then improved the designs, bringing them up to modern standards.

The Acclamator was not a Republic design. Well, it was, but the Republic had no idea it had them until Geonosis.
This is actually exactly what happened.
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SithLa
10.04.2019 , 07:50 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Fyurii View Post
Stop right there.
Greivous was not made from Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas' body.

To preserve his remaining organic components, Sifo-Dyas' blood was used. Nothing else.
He wasn't "fused" biologically. His blood was used to keep the remains of the Kaleesh Qymaen jai Sheelal aka Greivous alive.
You might think that using his blood sounds different than imagining his body and other organs being used but it is still the same, part of Sifo Dyas was fused with General Greivous even if it was just Sifo's blood from a certain point of view.