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Theres room for one new species/class/role

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Theres room for one new species/class/role

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SlimSanta
05.24.2014 , 08:23 AM | #11
The question is more what we would like to see. If the story is good, we like to be a robot, but all we can come up with is a sniper 2.0 class then... I personally don't see the point. People are chewing through the endgame like rats (myself included) and adding something just to have a leveling storyline - well... not going to happen.

Come up with a class specific suggestion, some easy things you would need to include is:

1: Ranged or melee?
2: What kind of weapon and gear?
3: What will be the main stat?
4: How is it different from current classes?
5: What is the strong sides of the class, and what is it's weak points?

Detailed info is required, and I bet if the community can make a complete class with a lot of abilities pre-written and maybe even some concept art they would be convinced that the community wants it so bad they will end up making it. Stating that you want to be an HK unit and be given orders from Revan is not convincing enough to invest lots of time and money in it.

Possibly, you would want to change your looks. As a droid they would probably need to make some appearance changer slots (similar to companions). Anyway, come up with something specific about the class and hope for the ball to roll further by others with other qualifications, only way we will see another class.
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AnHero
05.24.2014 , 10:24 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by SlimSanta View Post
The question is more what we would like to see. If the story is good, we like to be a robot, but all we can come up with is a sniper 2.0 class then... I personally don't see the point. People are chewing through the endgame like rats (myself included) and adding something just to have a leveling storyline - well... not going to happen.

Come up with a class specific suggestion, some easy things you would need to include is:

1: Ranged or melee?
2: What kind of weapon and gear?
3: What will be the main stat?
4: How is it different from current classes?
5: What is the strong sides of the class, and what is it's weak points?

Detailed info is required, and I bet if the community can make a complete class with a lot of abilities pre-written and maybe even some concept art they would be convinced that the community wants it so bad they will end up making it. Stating that you want to be an HK unit and be given orders from Revan is not convincing enough to invest lots of time and money in it.

Possibly, you would want to change your looks. As a droid they would probably need to make some appearance changer slots (similar to companions). Anyway, come up with something specific about the class and hope for the ball to roll further by others with other qualifications, only way we will see another class.
Ill attempt to answer some questions.

(1) Half-Half DPS/Melee would be an interesting class choice.
(2) Weapon would either be Vibroblade or Blaster Rifle
(3) mainstat is either Aim or Strength
(4) Functions as a hybrid/redmage style class between range consistant dps or melee burst dps
(5) Strength would be on fulfilling specific FP and Operations goals. Such as being able to CC both a droid and a human or two creatures, or being able to adapt to fulfill the puzzle based option quicker. In a way a utility based class that is strictly built as a support. For PvP DPS should be something like 2/3rd damage for both ranged and melee, but hotswappable modes at the button press (similar to how smugglers/agents have a cover-toolbar) to allow them to switch to melee combat or ranged combat.


Honestly I could have done better at answering these questions. Let's face it, something like this will never happen. I personally think Swtor as a game succeeds in its leveling content rather than its endgame content. As a result I would like to see the class storyline capitalized on more so than endgame pvp/pve content at the moment simply because I think its Swtors best element for an mmo. There's always a difference in opinion though! I just happen to enjoy leveling alts more than endgame PvE and PvP content, heck the reason I developed such a strong love for SW was simply due to Kotor I and II and I always crave more content related to that.

Thats about it for me, It's incredibly easy to counter my points and find flaws in the system. It's just something I would enjoy seeing, nothing else. I know its almost quite impossible, but that's what the suggestion box is for. Something for bioware to unexpectedly surprise us with every now and then.

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Obianon
05.24.2014 , 06:58 PM | #13
The last thing I want to see is a new class to level. I would much rather see that development time go to new story lines for existing classes.

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AnHero
05.24.2014 , 07:25 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Obianon View Post
The last thing I want to see is a new class to level. I would much rather see that development time go to new story lines for existing classes.
I mean that's fine too. Honestly my biggest complaint is just the lack of content after 50 regarding class story.

I either would like a new class story to play or proper extensions to the class storyline. Imho, I actually think it would be easier to just make a new class and re-use a very large amount of the already existing content/planets than to make like three new planets to continue the class storyline (assuming leveling from 55-60)

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ZahirS
05.24.2014 , 07:59 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by SlimSanta View Post
The question is more what we would like to see. If the story is good, we like to be a robot, but all we can come up with is a sniper 2.0 class then... I personally don't see the point. People are chewing through the endgame like rats (myself included) and adding something just to have a leveling storyline - well... not going to happen.

Come up with a class specific suggestion, some easy things you would need to include is:

1: Ranged or melee?
2: What kind of weapon and gear?
3: What will be the main stat?
4: How is it different from current classes?
5: What is the strong sides of the class, and what is it's weak points?

Detailed info is required, and I bet if the community can make a complete class with a lot of abilities pre-written and maybe even some concept art they would be convinced that the community wants it so bad they will end up making it. Stating that you want to be an HK unit and be given orders from Revan is not convincing enough to invest lots of time and money in it.

Possibly, you would want to change your looks. As a droid they would probably need to make some appearance changer slots (similar to companions). Anyway, come up with something specific about the class and hope for the ball to roll further by others with other qualifications, only way we will see another class.
Playing a Robot in a fully voiced MMO I wouldnt try it.

How can a Robot be a hero in star wars, usually its a companion?
How can a Robot be able to be as efficient as a Humanoid Hero?
How can a Robot/Droid use clothes and enter PVP matches, PVE heroics, Flashpoints?

If you can answer this questions then I think yours are relevant.

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AnHero
05.24.2014 , 10:50 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS View Post
Playing a Robot in a fully voiced MMO I wouldnt try it.

How can a Robot be a hero in star wars, usually its a companion?
How can a Robot be able to be as efficient as a Humanoid Hero?
How can a Robot/Droid use clothes and enter PVP matches, PVE heroics, Flashpoints?

If you can answer this questions then I think yours are relevant.
I'm terrible at this so forgive my poor quality in answers, but ill give it a shot.

(1) I feel as though star wars brings the concept of droids to a new level. You have droids such as TM-34 and R2-D2 that experience radical changes in personality and gained sentience from never having their memory cores wiped. In my opinion, star wars has always set up the stage for a droid character to be a main character of some book, game, or animation. IG-88 for example has quite the decent amount of content written about him even though he (he right?) is a droid. I personally think that a droid character could bring a very new and fresh perspective to gameplay. There would be a hefty amount of racism (does this apply to droids?) and insane requests when encountering characters, but really is that any different. If you look at all the classes, no matter how ****** we play our characters, we are simply servants to our companions/npcs guiding us along a prewritten path as we obey their orders. In a way, we are already playing characters that are robots, with the restrictive focus of this game it would not be too different to have an actual droid as the main character (Hero).

(2) I believe that in the star wars universe, a droid that has achieved a level of sentience is essentially regarded the same in capabilities as a person is, the only restriction being is locks on their programming to prevent them from being given the same rights. Look at TM-34, he went around the galaxy doing tons of stuff between all the kotor games and extended content, a lot of this action was independent on his own will. Regarding efficiency in particular, there would be quite a few flavor jokes into the game where options would state "Statement: Foolish meatbags and their care for others blinds them to the truth of how to solve this problem correctly. Query: Why must we save the people trapped in the reactor core when we can just flush it immediately to solve the problem quickly?" I know I could have done a lot better than that, but the efficiency joke would certainly be something worth playing on.

(3) This I do have a hard time defending. If we want a true "droid" appearance, we're going to have a very rough time getting gear and equipment to just work... Appearance wise and integration wise. One such solution for stims would be to add a mention that the stim is filled with nanomachines to enhance performance to a specific stat in both organics and artificial beings. The issue about armor can be resolved in a few ways...
  1. Have the droids be designed based off the current human body-type, just with droid skin textures. This allows them to wear clothing/etc normally with no issues regarding clipping (least fun)
  2. Armor can be equiped normally, but a seperate set of armor tabs (appearance type) could be used to modify appearance of droid armor
  3. Customization stations could be allowed for droids with a small credit fee per design change.

I know this borderlines appearance tab requests that are already in the game, and i apologize that i utilized that for my answer, just trying to think of how things could work.

Once again Im terrible at this, it's all highly impractical and close to 0.0000001% improbable. It still does not change the fact that id absolutely go nuts over how much id love it.

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errant_knight
05.25.2014 , 04:45 PM | #17
I'm strongly opposed to any new classes/roles until after we get new class content for the ones we have and a commitment to returning to that story model rather than pretending that wasn't what we were promised.

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AnHero
05.25.2014 , 09:19 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
I'm strongly opposed to any new classes/roles until after we get new class content for the ones we have and a commitment to returning to that story model rather than pretending that wasn't what we were promised.
The downside is that class content has actually already been expanded upon.

A lot of the classes now have canon deaths in the timeline