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[Guide/Video] Min-Maxing DPS, Stat / Gear Check

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[Guide/Video] Min-Maxing DPS, Stat / Gear Check

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Belgaer
07.27.2013 , 11:26 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Xinika View Post
Both Sin specs are behind in terms of damage. So to answer your question, I believe you were given bad information. Madness is still being used as the primary progression spec with Deception lagging not too far behind.
Thanks for the info. I guess it's probably my connection that kills Madness's damage or something then (Satellite, 700-1000 ms ping). You'd think Deception would lose a lot more than Madness with a bad connection. I suppose gear or my own play style could be at fault, but I played Madness pre-2.0 and did really well in progression ops with it, so a less complicated rotation shouldn't be the issue.

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IInox
07.28.2013 , 05:28 AM | #42
Hello xinika.

Im' glad to see you add pve essential of inf/dec from my 3d, I want to ask you some things on stats section:

DPS Stats
Quote:
3051 Willpower
1397 Bonus Damage (Force)
99% Accuracy (Melee)
24 - 25% Crit (Melee)
71% Surge
0 Accuracy / Alacrity <- remove "accuracy"
or

Quote:
Willpower 2624
Strength 155
Power 1586
Force Power 2012 (from weapons)
Crit Rating 285 <- add 285-342
Surge Rating 395
Accuracy 474 <- 395 not 474!
Alacrity 0

Can you delete willpower and power values? cuz these are on full Underworld and willpower/power will change with kell dragon; nd please add a note: "on other points stack power and use augments with power" so there will be not any problems on understand.

thanks. ^^ and gj

edit:

ah, why don't add this 3d on shadow section too?

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mmerry
07.28.2013 , 07:24 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
Thanks for the info. I guess it's probably my connection that kills Madness's damage or something then (Satellite, 700-1000 ms ping). You'd think Deception would lose a lot more than Madness with a bad connection. I suppose gear or my own play style could be at fault, but I played Madness pre-2.0 and did really well in progression ops with it, so a less complicated rotation shouldn't be the issue.
Your ping would definitely be the issue with madness. Madness is all about trying to be as precise as possible with the application of your dots and death field. For example, I was parsing last night and I was playing rather poorly. I wasn't clipping Dots, but I would be slightly late applying them for one reason or another. This led to lower parses (for my standards) than I usually get. Mind you this was with a stable 30ms ping. I have no idea how you are able to play on satellite with that ping.

To answer your question about which spec is used in progression, I will switch based on the fight. In TFB NiM I run Madness on WH, DG, and Kephess, and Decep on OP IX and The Terror. In SnV NiM so far I have run Madness on Dash and Titan, and then Decep on Thrasher.

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Belgaer
07.28.2013 , 04:38 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by mmerry View Post
Your ping would definitely be the issue with madness. Madness is all about trying to be as precise as possible with the application of your dots and death field. For example, I was parsing last night and I was playing rather poorly. I wasn't clipping Dots, but I would be slightly late applying them for one reason or another. This led to lower parses (for my standards) than I usually get. Mind you this was with a stable 30ms ping. I have no idea how you are able to play on satellite with that ping.

To answer your question about which spec is used in progression, I will switch based on the fight. In TFB NiM I run Madness on WH, DG, and Kephess, and Decep on OP IX and The Terror. In SnV NiM so far I have run Madness on Dash and Titan, and then Decep on Thrasher.
Yeah, I only get about 2000 dps at best on this internet. Can't wait to see the back of it.

Thanks for the spec info. It's good to see that the two are close enough that it's situational. Still wish they both put out more damage, but that's another topic that we're all beating to death lately anyway.

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mmerry
07.28.2013 , 05:25 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
Yeah, I only get about 2000 dps at best on this internet. Can't wait to see the back of it.

Thanks for the spec info. It's good to see that the two are close enough that it's situational. Still wish they both put out more damage, but that's another topic that we're all beating to death lately anyway.
Side note about your intenet... When I moved a few weeks ago it took about 1 1/2 weeks for the internet to be activated and I was able to use my phones tethered 4g connection while we were doing Dread Guard progression. I actually was tethered when we killed them and I think I had around a 90ms ping. So if its possible in your area to get a strong mobile data connection you could look into that.

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Belgaer
07.28.2013 , 06:47 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by mmerry View Post
Side note about your intenet... When I moved a few weeks ago it took about 1 1/2 weeks for the internet to be activated and I was able to use my phones tethered 4g connection while we were doing Dread Guard progression. I actually was tethered when we killed them and I think I had around a 90ms ping. So if its possible in your area to get a strong mobile data connection you could look into that.
Yeah, I know. I've told my father this (it's his internet, I just stay here over summers), but he's about the most unreasonable person ever born. It's a shame too, because he could get the same data allowance from AT&T for about the same he pays for satellite.

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Xinika
07.29.2013 , 10:28 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by IInox View Post
Hello xinika.

Im' glad to see you add pve essential of inf/dec from my 3d, I want to ask you some things on stats section:

DPS Stats
Quote:
3051 Willpower
1397 Bonus Damage (Force)
99% Accuracy (Melee)
24 - 25% Crit (Melee)
71% Surge
0 Accuracy / Alacrity <- remove "accuracy"
or

Quote:
Willpower 2624
Strength 155
Power 1586
Force Power 2012 (from weapons)
Crit Rating 285 <- add 285-342
Surge Rating 395
Accuracy 474 <- 395 not 474!
Alacrity 0

Can you delete willpower and power values? cuz these are on full Underworld and willpower/power will change with kell dragon; nd please add a note: "on other points stack power and use augments with power" so there will be not any problems on understand.

thanks. ^^ and gj

edit:

ah, why don't add this 3d on shadow section too?
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Almoehi
07.30.2013 , 06:24 AM | #48
Hello there,

i am a little confused about the setting of some skillpoints in the PVE DD-specs:

- for madness wouldn't it be better to put those 2 middle-tree points into shadow's respite, because you rarely need the fast interrupt but are force starved more often then not?
- for infiltration i think 2 points in kinetic field are better than faster running, because less damage taken = less healing required.

just my thoughts, otherwise good job and nice vids.

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mmerry
07.30.2013 , 09:21 AM | #49
You bring up a valid point for madness. Its really dependent on the fight. If I know that it will be a mostly stationary fight then I take the 2 points in Dark Embrace. However there are a couple fights (Dashroode in SnV, Kephess in TFB) where the 5 second reduction on Force Speed is crucial so I will take 2 points in Avoidance.

This is the spec that I use for deception. Basically only putting one point in Obfuscation and locating it in Entropic Field.

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enabe
07.30.2013 , 11:34 AM | #50
DPS-Infiltration / Deception
- llnox

DPS Stats
Quote:
Strength 155
Power 1586 (Stack Power) last thing to stack
Force Power 2012 (from weapons)
Crit Rating 285 get this up to where it is 30% un buffed
Surge Rating 395 get this to where it is 70%+ unbuffed
Accuracy 395 get this to where melee is 100% and force is 110%
Alacrity 0
once u have your crit and surge rating to where it read crit rating 30% and surge rating of 70% and force accuaracy to 110% then you go with power not before

TANK GUIDE


TANK-Kinetic Combat / Darkness
Spec: 37/5/4

TANK Stats
Quote:
3523 Endurance
860 Shield Chance
1152 Absorption no no no
527 Defense Chance
0 Accuracy / Alacrity

stack Defense before anything else defense is a Guarantee you dont take damage abortion and shield chance is a roll of the dice on how much damage u take if your defense is up high you have a higher change to dodge the attack i run as a tank and DPS and when i am running as spec for DPS and i see a tank that has the stats stated here i kick him from group and find another tank or just tank it myself. now when i am running as tank spec and i see a DPS assassin come in with those states above i give him a little chance but they normally dont last long