We get suckered in with a well-paced, adequately written dungeon dive with lots of unique characters and tons of dialogue that displayed all of that wonderful voice acting and characterization, only to have it followed by a dozen bland corridor-filled loot pinatas.

 

I first noticed the huge gap when I wanted to farm social points with a friend in a higher level FP, only to find out that there were only about 3 dialogue sessions and 2 of them were with a console opening some door. Each FP was graced by a generic FP "kill or don't kill this group of scientists, doctors, or technicians" choice for light/dark points.

 

Even the enemies in these FPs are boring, and require less effort and coordination than your average H2-4. The bosses typically have no personality, and I have no idea who 95% of them are.

Edited January 10, 2012 by Zakaan

Keep leveling

 

The flashpoint that "aren't fleshed out" weren't supposed to exist. They were added in because people complained there were gaps between the real flashpoints.

Everything after Esseles until you hit 50 may as well not exist. I'd say that was a problem. Even the Jedi prisoner was boring, as 99% of the two-part flashpoint was mindless trash spam, and the rest was a 30 second conversation with and about the guy you were rescuing.

 

No matter how you look at it, it's pretty disappointing.

Edited January 10, 2012 by Zakaan

Oh, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought Esseless was what flashpoints were gonna be like, with lots of plot and a chance to earns tons of social points as I progressed through them. I get like 6 social points from the later flashpoints which makes me wonder how I get to other social tiers. Plus they are AWFUL!!!! They are like drawn out versions of regular heroic quests but with less plot.

Oh, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought Esseless was what flashpoints were gonna be like, with lots of plot and a chance to earns tons of social points as I progressed through them. I get like 6 social points from the later flashpoints which makes me wonder how I get to other social tiers. Plus they are AWFUL!!!! They are like drawn out versions of regular heroic quests but with less plot.

 

The best way to gain social tiers seems to be to spam Esseles runs. I've quested through two entire planets with a partner, ran several flashpoints, and I'm still only rank one. It seems as though the only way to gain the points is through dialogue rolling, which is an extremely minute part of cooperative play.

I agree, most of the FPs are pretty bland, and the LS/DS decisions seem thrown in simply to have the option. However, I do think Jedi Prisoner was pretty awesome. It reminded me more of Esseles story-wise.

False Emperor is kind of completely amazing

False Emperor is kind of completely amazing

 

Good to know as I haven't run that yet. I'll grab a group tomorrow in hopes that it will make up for 40 levels of staleness.

lvl 50 (and near 50) flashpoints are just awesome.

 

I'm doing most of them on daily basis and not getting bored. Spacebaring dialogues, yeah, but both fights and voice acting during fights is just cool.

 

FE could be bit shorter though, too much trash for my taste. Last fight tho - great fun.

lvl 50 (and near 50) flashpoints are just awesome.

 

I'm doing most of them on daily basis and not getting bored. Spacebaring dialogues, yeah, but both fights and voice acting during fights is just cool.

 

FE could be bit shorter though, too much trash for my taste. Last fight tho - great fun.

 

How can you say lvl 50 flashpoints are awesome

I did directive 7 and battle of ilum and it was just trash trash trash trash trash trash trash trash and even more trash and a few bland bosses.

False Emperor is kind of completely amazing

 

Battle For Illum is good as well.

How can you say lvl 50 flashpoints are awesome

I did directive 7 and battle of ilum and it was just trash trash trash trash trash trash trash trash and even more trash and a few bland bosses.

 

The False Emperor also fits that description - a handful of moments of dialogue between bosses with simplistic, outdated mechanics and way too much trash.

Esselles sucks, too much dialogue. Dialogue is nice and all, but after the 20th run, it gets old. Even spacing through it takes ages.

Maelstrom Prison (flashpoint) is easily the most significant lore event in this entire game. It did have a lot of trash, but there were several excellent dialogue moments, plus the main plot of the flashpoint was :mindblown: Edited January 11, 2012 by Parrothead

I think they need to consider this for future content. We need more FPs like the first ones. That is not to say that there needs to be as much dialogue in every dungeon. I would like something in between BT/Esseles and the others for most content, with a few FPs with a lot of dialogue like BT/Esseles.

I havent rly noticed it, but its quite true. Dialouge seems to get less and less. But it is still better then any mmo i have seen. Edited January 11, 2012 by Ommm

Taral V/Maelstrom were really good.

I liked Taral V but it was way too long for what dialogue it gave. Can anyone confirm is the lvl 50 FP are more like Taral V or the Esseles in terms of dialogue.

It seems Bioware have rushed things. Always wondered about the same thing my self, Esseles is the ONLY flashpoint that has dialogue and consequences. The rest is just terminals and fillers.

It's the same on the Empire side, to be honest. Black Talon is very well done but everything else is not.

 

Hammer Station? Pointless. Finally, you get to The Foundry and it's good. Even The Foundry pre-cursor (Boarding Party) seemed thrown together slapdash.

D7, False Emperor, and Black Talon are all well done.

diologue in heroic instances are just ********. i wish there would be a button to skip the lore or they should just disable it on heroic difficulty. after the first run those storys are anoying.

Honestly, there's only so much voice acting they can put in the game. Be impressed with what all they've done. They've got eight unique class stories, a unique story line for every planet, and unique story lines for flashpoints. Something's gotta give somewhere.

 

Also, the flashpoints higher up in levels get better. Maelstrom Prison is my personal favorite and is very nicely done with an interesting and unexpected twist.

diologue in heroic instances are just ********. i wish there would be a button to skip the lore or they should just disable it on heroic difficulty. after the first run those storys are anoying.

 

There is a button, it's called SPACE BAR. Of course, everyone else has to press it too.

Another thought is it likely that Bioware will keep it up with instances like the Esseles in the future?