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If your not enjoying pvp, Its probably your fault

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If your not enjoying pvp, Its probably your fault

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ShenLong
12.31.2011 , 03:06 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisbox View Post
I did not mean to reply to your original comment, it was directed to noctura so im sorry if this caused you any annoyance. I respond mindlessly to people like him/her who post so mindlessly. You haven't complained about the CC on healers because of your team and how they are aware of their role and yours. That is the exact point i was trying to make.
Yeah, I was getting a bit confused on there. Partially my comment is because I enjoy an opportunity for a good ribbing when it presents themselves.

Otherwise I was thinking "Wait...what is all this business about healing?"

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Chrisbox
12.31.2011 , 03:08 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by ShenLong View Post
Yeah, I was getting a bit confused on there. Partially my comment is because I enjoy an opportunity for a good ribbing when it presents themselves.

Otherwise I was thinking "Wait...what is all this business about healing?"
lol agreed, my bad again.

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Noctura
12.31.2011 , 03:10 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisbox View Post
So one person is keeping you CC'd and preventing you from healing? Not to be a **** but your also saying that your team couldnt deal with this "one person". I find this information to be extremely invalid. Also, what basic mechanic issues? all you have been complaining about is your lack of the ability to heal because of CC but thats obviously a global mechanic issue.
Yes... one person can easily kill a healer in this game. It's a well known fact. You haven't healed at all that much is obvious so I'm not sure where you get off on telling me that the sole reason healers are getting owned is because we suck.

I actually just read a forum yesterday about a dps complaining because he blew all of his cc's on an operative who was within an inch of his life... but managed to get one heal off at the last second. The dps was upset by this. For anyone to complain because they barely were unable to kill a healer before it got one spell off is ridiculous. This is generally the mindset of all dps.

I can just as easily turn this on you at this point and question your abilitiy as a dps. If you have issues killing healers at all you must be bad... very bad.

I've been healing in these games for years and I'm not one to boast but I'm good at it I assure you.

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Chrisbox
12.31.2011 , 03:15 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Noctura View Post
Yes... one person can easily kill a healer in this game. It's a well known fact. You haven't healed at all that much is obvious so I'm not sure where you get off on telling me that the sole reason healers are getting owned is because we suck.

I actually just read a forum yesterday about a dps complaining because he blew all of his cc's on an operative who was within an inch of his life... but managed to get one heal off at the last second. The dps was upset by this. For anyone to complain because they barely were unable to kill a healer before it got one spell off is ridiculous. This is generally the mindset of all dps.

I can just as easily turn this on you at this point and question your abilitiy as a dps. If you have issues killing healers at all you must be bad... very bad.
The main reason, one would attack a healer at full hp is to force them to heal themselves so the people wounded in combat already will not recieve further healing. That person was extremely smart to wait for the last bit of life to cast that heal, because he/she was keeping everyone else alive to. A smart healer, would do the best he/she can to keep themselves, and allies alive. I have healed in several previous MMO's . As far as my dps goes, you can try and reverse it on me but it wouldnt get you anywhere. Im a tank powertech, and 80% of the time I have a sorcerer, and a maurauder at my side. We dont die often. Also if Im pugging, I try to coordinate well with the healers on my team constantly leaving my guard on them and attacking the people attacking them. So rarely am I attacking a healer at all, im just keeping mine alive by killing the people attacking him.

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vIBIENNYx
12.31.2011 , 03:15 PM | #165
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Noctura
12.31.2011 , 03:19 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisbox View Post
The main reason, one would attack a healer at full hp is to force them to heal themselves so the people wounded in combat already will not recieve further healing. That person was extremely smart to wait for the last bit of life to cast that heal, because he/she was keeping everyone else alive to. A smart healer, would do the best he/she can to keep themselves, and allies alive. I have healed in several previous MMO's . As far as my dps goes, you can try and reverse it on me but it wouldnt get you anywhere. Im a tank powertech, and 80% of the time I have a sorcerer, and a maurauder at my side. We dont die often. Also if Im pugging, I try to coordinate well with the healers on my team constantly leaving my guard on them and attacking the people attacking them. So rarely am I attacking a healer at all, im just keeping mine alive by killing the people attacking him.

Edit: nice try at calling me bad
No, the healer wasn't healing anybody else and I never said it was. The waiting until last second was not intentional. That was the healer trying to keep himself and only himself alive but was only able to get a heal off until that last second because the dps unleashed all of his cc and had nothing left. The dps was almost able to solo kill a healer because of the amount of cc he possessed. Not only solo kill it but solo kill it without the healer being able to cast a single spell.

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Chrisbox
12.31.2011 , 03:23 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Noctura View Post
No, the healer wasn't healing anybody else and I never said it was. The waiting until last second was not intentional. That was the healer trying to keep himself and only himself alive but was only able to get a heal off until that last second because the dps unleashed all of his cc and had nothing left. The dps was almost able to solo kill a healer because of the amount of cc he possessed.
How do we know the healer was healing spec'd? Or had full force/health. I've seen the amount of healing people are capable of at level 10 and even that can outheal some 1v1 dps with some cc. But this could also be looked at from a different stand point even if that DID occur: Why was that healer alone in a 1v1 area prone to attack? Why were none of his teammates around to support the healer? Thats 2 examples of horrible play.

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Noctura
12.31.2011 , 03:35 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisbox View Post
How do we know the healer was healing spec'd? Or had full force/health. I've seen the amount of healing people are capable of at level 10 and even that can outheal some 1v1 dps with some cc. But this could also be looked at from a different stand point even if that DID occur: Why was that healer alone in a 1v1 area prone to attack? Why were none of his teammates around to support the healer? Thats 2 examples of horrible play.
First of all, when did dps start expecting to be able to effortlessly solo a healer regardless of the circumstance? Questioning whether or not the healer was healing spec or not is just you grasping at straws at this point.

The main point is that this isn't the only time this happens. It happens constantly. The healer was an operative as I am. They are incredibly easy to lockdown having no real instant cast heals without relying on the main heal as I explained to you earlier. I can't necessarily speak for the other healing classes out there. I've heard about them and know many of their skills but have no had the experience of playing them but from what I've heard operative healing has it worst of all in pvp.

Once again, I feel that no dps should be able to effortlessly 1v1 a healer because it defeats the entire point of being a healer in the first place. You talk about teamwork but back up the fact that a dps should be facerolling me 1v1.

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Drato
12.31.2011 , 03:36 PM | #169
I like the OP and for what he believes +1 to him

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Chrisbox
12.31.2011 , 07:21 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Noctura View Post
First of all, when did dps start expecting to be able to effortlessly solo a healer regardless of the circumstance? Questioning whether or not the healer was healing spec or not is just you grasping at straws at this point.

The main point is that this isn't the only time this happens. It happens constantly. The healer was an operative as I am. They are incredibly easy to lockdown having no real instant cast heals without relying on the main heal as I explained to you earlier. I can't necessarily speak for the other healing classes out there. I've heard about them and know many of their skills but have no had the experience of playing them but from what I've heard operative healing has it worst of all in pvp.

Once again, I feel that no dps should be able to effortlessly 1v1 a healer because it defeats the entire point of being a healer in the first place. You talk about teamwork but back up the fact that a dps should be facerolling me 1v1.
A dps shouldnt be facerolling you 1v1, honestly I havent seen this happen often...if not ever so I cant say ive experienced it first hand. As far as the operatives work I cant speak for them either because im not an operative healer. If the dps has enough CC, and this man was single handedly destroying him without assitance from ANYONE and the healer was blowing every cooldown possible, then yes I dont think thats right. But like i've said I havent read the post your talking about, nor do I see this happen often in game so I cant really judge the situation without more detail.