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When will this game be playable? (not a troll)

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When will this game be playable? (not a troll)

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Dyvid
12.31.2011 , 01:02 PM | #21
"When will this game be playable?"

Now, no of the items you listed are game breaking problems.

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Atrix
12.31.2011 , 01:04 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by sanzuu View Post
First of all, these things might not be game breaking to you, but to ME they are.. They may not be important or needed to YOU but to me they are. My decision on whether to play this game is based off of those points, and if you don't like it then I don't care. The reason for me posting (not a troll) is because of all the posts I got saying things like "blah blah X isnt needed stop whining" etc. I don't give a **** what you think I just wanted to know if anybody helpful had any idea if and when these things would be implemented so I, personally, could play a game I deemed finished. (quite frankly this game was not a finished product on release, but MMO's never are. Deal with it.)
The funny thing here is, yes these are serious issues to you, but are they to others? A recent Dev article from Blizzard had one of the WOW Devs come out and say one of their biggest mistakes is trying to cater to everyone and throw in a bunch of features. It is why after 7 years they still don't have true class balance and still have features that either don't work properly or are disregarded. An MMO is a almost a living thing and constantly evolves.

So while you may want these specifically, not many others may. They are in bug fix mode, much like any other company is after a full public release even those that have beta programs just as extensive. As far as your 3 main issues, they have all been addressed at some point in the last few weeks by BioWare.
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Kourage
12.31.2011 , 01:06 PM | #23
It's playable right now.



Here's proof http://www.swtor.com/awards

nuff said
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sanzuu
12.31.2011 , 01:07 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Atrix View Post
The funny thing here is, yes these are serious issues to you, but are they to others? A recent Dev article from Blizzard had one of the WOW Devs come out and say one of their biggest mistakes is trying to cater to everyone and throw in a bunch of features. It is why after 7 years they still don't have true class balance and still have features that either don't work properly or are disregarded. An MMO is a almost a living thing and constantly evolves.

So while you may want these specifically, not many others may. They are in bug fix mode, much like any other company is after a full public release even those that have beta programs just as extensive. As far as your 3 main issues, they have all been addressed at some point in the last few weeks by BioWare.
Hang on, are you seriously saying not many other people want;

A) Mods.

B) Competitive PvP.

???

Seriously?? Have you played a single MMO in the last 10 years? Do you have any idea how big the pvp subscriber base for WoW is these days? How vital addons are to the playability and enjoyment of a lot of players?

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EzoEo
12.31.2011 , 01:07 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Flyceratops View Post
It doesn't need a rated PvP system to be a finished product, really. It'd be nice, but for now I think they should focus on things like an addon and macro system and a combat log.

And target-of-target.

And raid frames properly updating health. T-T
I hope they never add a macro system to the game. After playing Rift and see how abusive it can be I don't want to see them in another MMO again.

People only want combat logs for e-peens and so they run "DPS meters" which isn't needed.

They should focus on adding content and not the trivial things like macros.

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Ishikur
12.31.2011 , 01:08 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by EzoEo View Post
I hope they never add a macro system to the game. After playing Rift and see how abusive it can be I don't want to see them in another MMO again.

People only want combat logs for e-peens and so they run "DPS meters" which isn't needed.

They should focus on adding content and not the trivial things like macros.
Macro's can be introduced without any problem, they can limit macro's, like no really they can limit macro's....... rift didnt, and they allowed someone to put an entire roation into a macro to bind to one key, it doesnt have to be done this way so please learn more about macro's before sitting there saying NO MACROS BAD!

DPS meter's are fine, they remove all the scrubs or make them l2play properly, i for one dont wanna carry scrubs in operations at 50, thanks but no thanks.

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Andryah
12.31.2011 , 01:12 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by sanzuu View Post
First of all, this isn't a troll question or thread... I think this game has a great deal of potential, I think it could be a very good game, but it seems to me there are a lot of things that BW haven't addressed that they really should have implemented/fixed on release. I'm not going to name them all, because they are varying and great in number.

But certain things to me are more important than others, and will depend on whether I will play the game, they are...

1) Arena - Warzones; will they implement some sort of ranked ladder arena or WZ system? Will they add new WZ's and get rid of that ridiculous bolstering system.

2) Will they allow mods soon? This is absolutely essential to me. I wouldn't have played WoW for 7 years if I couldn't tweak the UI/make the game my own in all sorts of ways.

3) The little things; like adding a targets target, a combat log, less city instancing, etc.


I know in due time some of these things will be fixed or implemented (I hope for the games sake), but it's really a matter of how soon for me... Guild Wars 2 is due out in late Q1 2012 and to be honest, I'll be on that SO fu*cking hard... I actually think a lot of people will, and that if a lot of things aren't changed TOR (and WoW) is going to lose a Hell of a lot of subs to GW...

so basically... When will this game be a finished product?
1) yes this is a troll thread. Your title implies the game is not playable, when in fact it is very playable

2) you state your personal "preferences" for a few specific features as proof of "unplayability". And just because some others may agree with you, that does not define "unplayable"

3) you admit your list of preferences, which are currently shortfalls in the game feature set WILL be fixed in time.

So, maybe you would like to rephrase your title and thread a bit to make it more a more realistic portrayal of what you are trying to express?
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sanzuu
12.31.2011 , 01:17 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
1) yes this is a troll thread. Your title implies the game is not playable, when in fact it is very playable

2) you state your personal "preferences" for a few specific features as proof of "unplayability". And just because some others may agree with you, that does not define "unplayable"

3) you admit your list of preferences, which are currently shortfalls in the game feature set WILL be fixed in time.

So, maybe you would like to rephrase your title and thread a bit to make it more a more realistic portrayal of what you are trying to express?
1) perhaps I worded the thread wrongly, but ignoring the title if people had read and understood my paragraph they would have know I meant playable to ME. "When will tor be playable to ME" is the new thread title.

2) These lack of features make the game unplayable to me. See 1).

3) I 'admit' (why are you assuming I'm on the offensive here?) that issues may be fixed, but I have no idea when or what issues will be fixed, and the time-scale is important to me, because of the last paragraph of my post, indicating that when GW2 comes out I will most likely leave. I would like a game I can play before GW2 and if these things aren't fixed before it, then there's no point in playing, and BW won't be getting my sub.

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Sinister-Sith
12.31.2011 , 01:20 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by sanzuu View Post

I wanted to know if and when certain features important to me are going to be implemented. I can live with certain things not be addressed instantly, because that's the nature of a new game, especially an MMO, but certain things are hindering my ability to play the game. I wasn't asking for your opinion on the features I find important, I don't care what you think, and that's not what this thread was for. Go be a massive fanboy somewhere else, better yet, think before you post and read the damn thread post. You need a lesson in reading comprehension.
You indicated that this game was unplayable, because it lacked certain elements. Then you turn and say that most MMOs are never finished, anyway... If that's true, then what would be the point in even bringing up these points? A huge chunk of threads on this forum are already discussing the points you've made...

You need to educate yourself on logic.
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Gohlar
12.31.2011 , 01:21 PM | #30
OP if you don't want to troll don't use absurd hyperbole in your thread title.

Thanks.