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Season 13 and the Future of PvP

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Season 13 and the Future of PvP
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Saeten
07.14.2020 , 12:09 PM | #11
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Player will now receive Legendary Ember as rewards in the following Missions:
[DAILY] Arena of Death!: 1 Ember
[WEEKLY] Go Berserk!: 5 Ember
[WEEKLY] Time for Pain!: 1 Ember
Really? W T F is this? There should not be a way to gear up different with pvp than pve in this state of game. Remove Legendary Embers from pvp missions. Don't try to entice/force people to pvp with this crap. A lot of people don't want to pvp. PVP'ers already get chances at legendary embers from deconstructing loot drops like pve'ers.
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CrazyScruffy
07.14.2020 , 12:10 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
Great for ranked, but us regstar plebs would like unranked pvp to be a viable way to get gear/techfrags as well. The daily and weekly are a complete joke. Why does the GSF weekly give 700 frags compared to pvp's 125? PvP's daily is only 25 frags....like come on. I wanna earn tech frags through pvp. I don't want to run daily FP's to be able to earn tech frags at a decent pace to gear my alts.
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The following changes have been made to Solo Ranked Rewards. Similar changes have been made to Group Ranked Rewards and Unranked Rewards and full details for those will be in the upcoming patch notes this week.
looks like we just need to wait a few days

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CrazyScruffy
07.14.2020 , 12:10 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
Is the win requirement going to be only for ranked-related pvp missions, or for all pvp missions including unranked and GSF?

Can you look into including any of these reward updates to the Gree event pvp dailies?
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The following changes have been made to Solo Ranked Rewards. Similar changes have been made to Group Ranked Rewards and Unranked Rewards and full details for those will be in the upcoming patch notes this week.
looks like we just need to wait a few days

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Nee-Elder
07.14.2020 , 12:11 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post

Can you look into including any of these reward updates to the Gree event pvp dailies?
QFE

Nice start and appreciate the efforts from BioWare (Chris & whomever) , but i just wish they'd also figure out a legit way to finally include/incorporate OPEN WORLD pvp as well (even with 'Ranked' , but with a lesser degree of potential points obviously) .

I also still wish for OPT-IN PLAYER bounties during 'Bounty Hunter Event Week' (which could count for 'Ranked', to a much lesser degree AND with diminishing returns per player hunted)

9 years & counting on such wishes though....
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CrazyScruffy
07.14.2020 , 12:11 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Saeten View Post
Really? W T F is this? There should not be a way to gear up different with pvp than pve in this state of game. Remove Legendary Embers from pvp missions. Don't try to entice/force people to pvp with this crap. A lot of people don't want to pvp. PVP'ers already get chances at legendary embers from deconstructing loot drops like pve'ers.
so only getting (some) BIS sets from Dxun is okay? PVP players deserve some love. I casually play pvp and now i also have an incentive to que more. This is only good for the game

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Saeten
07.14.2020 , 12:25 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by CrazyScruffy View Post
so only getting (some) BIS sets from Dxun is okay? PVP players deserve some love. I casually play pvp and now i also have an incentive to que more. This is only good for the game
Would be fine if they add the same to pve missions. weekly FP, operations, etc. One sided is horsepucky.
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07.14.2020 , 12:26 PM | #17 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  

Just a couple points of clarification to the original post here:

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisSchmidt View Post
  • Now receive 18 Satchels of Crafting Mats (Grade 11) (up from 5)
  • Now receive 36 Processed Isotope Stabilizer
  • Instead of giving you 18 Satchels, we are giving you 2 Medium Satchels (which is the equivalent of 18)
  • You actually get 36 rolls for Processed Isotope Stabilizers, which practically means you will receive about triple what you receive now

One other addition for Season 13, in regards to this:

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisSchmidt View Post
Note: In the update kicking off Season 13, all missions will be changed to require wins for completion and rewards.

We will be extending the Deserter queue lockout to 15 minutes, to disincentivize leaving matches early.


Quote: Originally Posted by avenger_online View Post
You guys also wrote 50 000 for the furious weapon set, is that all the weapons or like s10 replicas where you buy the weapons individually?

That price is for the full set.


Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
Is the win requirement going to be only for ranked-related pvp missions, or for all pvp missions including unranked and GSF?

This would be for everything but GSF. Those missions remain unchanged in completion requirements.

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phalczen
07.14.2020 , 12:44 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Saeten View Post
Really? W T F is this? There should not be a way to gear up different with pvp than pve in this state of game. Remove Legendary Embers from pvp missions. Don't try to entice/force people to pvp with this crap. A lot of people don't want to pvp. PVP'ers already get chances at legendary embers from deconstructing loot drops like pve'ers.
I disagree with your objection. Enticements are fine, and nothing is forced here. I think its a reasonable change, as pvp'ers generally earn gear pieces for deconstruction at a lower pace than pve'ers.

However, related to your objection, let's assume for the purposes of discussion that pvp'ers will earn Embers faster than pve'ers after this change. If the Devs would restore the chance to get embers from harvesting that was nerfed to zero with 6.0.2, then that would help to even the pace between the two styles. PvE'ers and solo-exclusive players spend a lot more time on Onderon and Mek Sha than their counterparts who do pvp.
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Llacertus
07.14.2020 , 12:44 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Saeten View Post
Really? W T F is this? There should not be a way to gear up different with pvp than pve in this state of game. Remove Legendary Embers from pvp missions. Don't try to entice/force people to pvp with this crap. A lot of people don't want to pvp. PVP'ers already get chances at legendary embers from deconstructing loot drops like pve'ers.
This isn't forcing or people at all to do anything. This is a change that's been needed for a long time. There needs to be some kind of bonus reward for doing ranked especially since the ranked ques on a lot of these servers are dead. I really don't see why you say people shouldn't be enticed to do pvp. People often weren't interested in pvp because the rewards weren't worth the effort spent. This will completely fix that. Bioware did an amazing job time, and I think they deserve that much credit.

Yes, people have gotten legendary embers from pvp, but its always FAR FAR less than u could ever get from an 8 minute hammer station run. You might average 1-2 embers every 10 minutes with that setup, where in pvp a match lasts around 10 minutes, and you may or may not get gear from those rewards. You tell me which is harder: Doing a brainless flash-point run that's been done a million times over, or fighting against living, breathing human beings.
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SOULCASTER
07.14.2020 , 12:59 PM | #20
As a Season 1-6 rated PvPer, I would like to point out the very unfortunate situation of that you are re-releasing old season 1-6 rated pvp rewards, but not retroactively allowing me any icon flair or other deco trophies for my season 1-6 accomplishments.

Meaning your allowing new pvpers to get my old accomplishments and items, but I cannot get their later flair/deco. And sure I could queue up starting in season 13 and get character flair, but it will say season 13. Meanwhile the season 10 or so people are running around with the season 1 rancor with no way for anyone else to tell it isnt the legit season 1 rancor.

I just would like to see some character flair retroactively added to the game for the prior seasons 1-6 (or whenever they started the flair).

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