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GF issues are getting out of hand

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jedimasterjac
05.26.2020 , 10:39 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Banthabreeder View Post
Every time I read this header, i keep reading it as; Girl Friend issues are getting out of hand.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. ;-;
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Tofu_Shark
05.26.2020 , 03:57 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
I'm not? Interesting, so Taunts work differently here, or have different effects, well, they do in PvP? Nope, this is more "I want a perfect group every time, but can't be bothered to make one" than anything like a legit rationale. Just as you have no idea if a player is ready or not, neither does the game. So what does the game use to make the "Not Ready" determination? Some players are definitely not ready, others are, and some of them may even be better than anyone you know.

It's not like we can use gear for a determination of skill level, I've seen properly geared players that were carried to it by their guild, and had no clue about mechanics. I mean, if you don't know to move out of the laser in TBC, do you really have any justification for harping on other players. This is something I've actually seen happen, btw, not some hypothetical pulled out of thin air, and that's an empirical "you", not trying to single you out specifically. Achievement, nope, just as easily carried. So there's no reliable metric for the game to determine skilled or not. If you want total control of who's in your group, form a group from your guild/friend's list.
I wasn't specifically talking about taunts. That's cherry picking. This whole thread is about there no longer being a way to gauge player skill until they show they don't know what they're doing nor train individually for group encounters within the game itself. I never said I wanted a perfect group. I just don't want total, complete, utter morons. If someone is inexperienced, I don't mind as long as they are willing to learn.

And no, you're new the to game. You may have MMO experience, so you know what a taunt, cleanse, DCD, etc. is, and you'll learn a lot faster than someone that's never played one before, but you still have to learn the nuances of the game. There's nothing wrong with that.
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robertthebard
05.26.2020 , 04:16 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Tofu_Shark View Post
I wasn't specifically talking about taunts. That's cherry picking. This whole thread is about there no longer being a way to gauge player skill until they show they don't know what they're doing nor train individually for group encounters within the game itself. I never said I wanted a perfect group. I just don't want total, complete, utter morons. If someone is inexperienced, I don't mind as long as they are willing to learn.

And no, you're new the to game. You may have MMO experience, so you know what a taunt, cleanse, DCD, etc. is, and you'll learn a lot faster than someone that's never played one before, but you still have to learn the nuances of the game. There's nothing wrong with that.
Yes, I did pick just one skill, because I didn't want to start going down a list that could run to 4 or 5 pages, and also happens to be a skill that one of the posters you quoted cited as a tank not knowing about. As a NiM MM tank, I could spend an entire day on various mechanics, but for this topic, that's pointless. BTW, there was never a way to judge player skill w/out seeing them actually play, as I laid out in the post you quoted here.

There is, however, something wrong with saying "remove this because nobody that isn't on my approved list of experience, that I arbitrarily made up because there is no metric to know for sure in game, is allowed in my GF groups". GF is for everyone. If you want to control who's in your group, then form it, and then hit GF for a random x or y. Otherwise, just like everyone else, you're going to have to deal with whomever you get, in whatever way you deem necessary.
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Also, just a small point. Why should anyone who plays this game exclusively for any particular type of content, have to run a different type of content just to earn gear? What is that attitude all about?

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Lhancelot
05.26.2020 , 04:59 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkTergon View Post
yes, sometimes it's great to hop in on the last boss

On a side note, everytime I see the title, I think it's someone complaining about their girlfriend....lol
"GF issues are getting out of hand" time to call in doctor ruth
That's why I posted:

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My advice? Just don't get married.
I guess no one got it.
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Ansalem
05.26.2020 , 05:22 PM | #65
My issues are with the queue itself bugging out. Say for instance you have done HM TC on the week. Suddenly eventhough you can select it on your tab if you join a group that is trying to random queue for the bonus you will not able able to get TC to pop. Tried this with 3 different groups 5-15 minutes of attempts each time. Could not get the TC queue to pop until I left group and solo queued with only TC selected. They really need to just fix it to have that bonus as the standard and allow it to to selected and queued instead of playing queue roulette constantly.
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05.26.2020 , 05:32 PM | #66
Let us remember: These are the same exact people who cry for more content but continously farm only one instance. I'm tired of doing hammer station, and their "skills" make the garbage look appetizing.

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eabevella
05.26.2020 , 10:08 PM | #67
I always said up front that I am new to GF and Vet FP when I started doing it a month or two ago and people always help. I have never played any MMO before but I did know common senses such as not to pull mobs and follow the "leader". People in general were very patient when I did try but made mistakes, I guess it helped that I do apologize if I do something stupid.

It's more fun when people do communicate. The first time I got Athiss, the team was great and taught me the boss mechanic, what's the best route etc. in great details. The second time I got Athiss, I was grouped with three people who were new to the FP but we were able to finish it without issue because we talked in the beginning of the FP so we can take it slow and I can pass on the things I learned from the earlier experience.

Much, much better experience than the silent "no brain cell, we leap at everything and die like Sith" type I've got in the past few days...

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SoonerJBD
05.26.2020 , 11:16 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Banthabreeder View Post
Every time I read this header, i keep reading it as; Girl Friend issues are getting out of hand.
I’m married with three kids. To paraphrase a famous poet, I got 99 problems, but a girlfriend ain’t one. 😂

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DawnAskham
05.27.2020 , 07:04 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by eabevella View Post
I always said up front that I am new to GF and Vet FP when I started doing it a month or two ago and people always help. I have never played any MMO before but I did know common senses such as not to pull mobs and follow the "leader". People in general were very patient when I did try but made mistakes, I guess it helped that I do apologize if I do something stupid.

It's more fun when people do communicate. The first time I got Athiss, the team was great and taught me the boss mechanic, what's the best route etc. in great details. The second time I got Athiss, I was grouped with three people who were new to the FP but we were able to finish it without issue because we talked in the beginning of the FP so we can take it slow and I can pass on the things I learned from the earlier experience.

Much, much better experience than the silent "no brain cell, we leap at everything and die like Sith" type I've got in the past few days...
I got started the same way - communicated my newness, listened to others, played follow the leader, and used some basic common sense.

And that is all I ask of new players - no perfect play required, just communicate, listen, and follow.

But act an idiot (as in your example of 'idiot leaper syndrome') and expect to get called on it and / or kicked.

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JediQuaker
05.27.2020 , 07:36 AM | #70
On the other hand, I (dps) was in a VM flashpoint last night consisting of 3 dps and a healer. One of the dps was an obvious noob. He didn't seem to know exactly what he was doing and died fairly often.
The other dps reminded me of some of the not nice people posting in this thread. He seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time 'examining' the noob and complaining to him about not using all his skills, dying too often, etc.
At some point mid-way through the FP, the nasty dps started a vote kick on the noob dps, but coincidently, the healer dc'd. So there was only me to actually vote, and I voted not to kick.
Not surprisingly, the nasty guy quit when the kick vote failed. After some complications of waiting for the healer to reconnect and the 'can't queue' glitch, we ended up kicking the dc'd healer, and we got 2 replacement dps and finished the FP without much trouble.

The bottom line for me is that, much of the complaining about GF groups comes from a small group of toxic players.
There is no real problem with GF other than the lack of ability of some players to realize that it is a PUG, and to adjust their expectations accordingly. 🙂
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