Let us kill Ashara

To be honest, personally I think this kill option should have been left in from beta. But even in life, how many times can you forgive someone for doing the same bad stuff on you, before you stop talking to them. And as Sith, especially if you are DS, when someone pulls the same stuff twice like that, you are going to snap his neck.

She'd probably have been a more interesting companion if handled this way.
As it is, she works only for LS SI who are quite loyal to the Empire and want to reforme it to make it better, which is quite restrictive.
If you play a powerhungry moronic DS lunatic "kill everything that stands in my way", she doesn't work at all and you can't even have your character acts "in character" while reuniting with her. If you play a "i want to watch the Empire burn" kind of SI, she doesn't work either.

Wrath's 'stumble' isn't like Inq's. At all. Wrath HAD their natural power, were selected pretty early in the story (end of chapter 1?), wasn't saved by anyone else's power and Wrath had a divine-like calling that they knew of. A goal that they knowingly accomplished and enjoyed the fruits of.

Inquisitor appears to find out about ascending to the DC right after Thanaton's death. If you don't believe me, here: https://youtu.be/4xPN2ixbl_Y?t=300

I don't recall the instance where the Inq supposes that they can take Thanaton's seat earlier but I can't say I don't believe you, the branched dialogue is pretty loose but all lead to the same places. And of course the Inq would say they're vying for power but if we pay attention to the story at hand, it was a constant struggle to sruvive while serving their master, trying to extract the ghosts or fighting Thanaton. The Inq never specifically focused on gaining power as per their own ambitions, it was a means to survive.

Wrath had choice. Revenge on Baras didn't make them the Wrath, they killed Baras, proving they were the Wrath and answering the calls of the Emperor (on Voss) and the Hands prior (I think as far back as Quesh?). If you and I show up to take an exam on the same day and when I pass, I say: "Great, now I can go on and be the head of _______" while you pass and say "Wait, I can be a head of ________?", there's a clear difference, no?

On the other hand, the SW would not have been appointed as the new Wrath if Scourge didn't run away with the JK, it's even possible that Scourge oppenly betraying the Emperor was what let Baras make his move in the first place. It was just convenient that the SW had a real motivation to take Baras down and was powerful enough to be a decent replacement for Scourge

Too bad some people can't accept a choice is a choice. You actually convinced me. I won't be not that forgiving and I'm not a Sith lol

It's during the first conversation (maybe the second) one with Moff Pyron that the subject of taking his Council seat comes up; but it's only a single dialogue choice out of the entirety and easy to overlook.


There's also a huge difference between Baras and Thanton. You're comparing apples and oranges, really

Baras more or less works his way up by getting others to do the dirty work for him. We never see him directly confront anyone until the very end of the Warrior story where he's forced into the fight. In fact, I can't recall a single reference to Baras actually engaging in combat.

Thanaton , on the other hand, is most definitely the opposite. Just to pick one example: when you're sent to take down Thanaton's base in Axial Park on Corellia, it's stated plainly that Thanaton took said base ALONE.


To get back to Ashara, there's only one instance at the beginning of SoR where we see Ashara attempting to use the Dark Side. The attempt is only somewhat successful, as she receives a vision of a few seconds in length. She's never shown or referred to as ever calling on the Dark Side; which is why I stand by my opinion that she's a light side oriented companion. No matter what the Inquisitor does, Ashara always insists that she's still a Jedi; and there's no way in the story or the conversation dialogues to remove her delusion.

Is it really true? Are you sure, you 'member correctly? I just don't member hearing someone pointing that out in the story.
I had a very big problem with RPing my Sith Sorcerer in a game that is all about frontline combat - it didn't really seem to me adequate for someone in a ceremonial robe and with a limited lightsaber proficiency to actually engage enemy troops and all that.
But if what you saying is true than it's a big relief to me for sure!

Revenge on Baras most definitely made the Warrior the Wrath. It was the carrot that was dangled by the Hand in front of the Warrior on Quesh to entice him to take up the role.

The Emperor wanted Baras gone, the Warrior was the perfect foil due to his relationship with Baras to take him down. He wasn't chosen because of any special power, he was chosen specifically because of this past relationship. The Inquisitor is the more proficient in the force. You could even argue that Baras successfully manipulating the Warrior is also one thing that attracted the Emperor to him. He knew the Warrior was someone he could control, bearing in mind what happened with Scourge.

Also, the Warrior is only provisionally accepted by the Dark Council. Darth Marr tells the Warrior they will only accept him whilst his goals align with theirs. Even Lana tells the Warrior that the Council will not tolerate him going after one of their own. The Inquisitor is accepted without these conditions. They recognise his power and merits.

The Warrior was the more privileged one. He was given the best of everything as he trained whilst the Inq had to fight tooth and nail against a Overseer who tried his best to get him killed.

We do hear of instances where Baras has engaged in past combat. Jaesa's master speaks of fighting him as does the Jedi who holocalls him on Hoth, both instances Baras seems to have come off worst.

As for the Inq not being any good at martial combat, this is rubbish. Inq codex entry: "Inquisitors overwhelm their targets with Force Lightning and lightsabers alike"

Again, you see Ashara communing with the Dark Side when you encounter her again on Voss. Ashara even says during the class campaign that she doesn't care that the Jedi don't see her as one of theirs:

https://youtu.be/EE1h0WnClNg?t=723

Ashara most definitely accepts she isn't a Jedi. If you watch the entirety of the video it shows you she even questions whether it was the right thing for her to even enter the order.

Her mail to a romanced Inq after he ends up as a Popsicle says this:

"The Sith and Jedi are helpless against this enemy. I’ve left them all behind. I never belonged to those failed orders, no more than you did. We were always something special. Now it’s just me."

I dont agree she is light orientated. She is just practical and pragmatic like Marr and Lana. She is the most grey of all the companions,

You do realize I was asking about Sorcerers specifically and codex entry you quoted was written back in the times when there was an actual Inquisitor class (i.e. it's just about game mechanics, not an actual lore and how it is in a galaxy far, far away) which also was, in fact, just a precursor to Assassin, definitely a much more combat-orientied class?