S12 rewards

It vastly depends on what "harm" means. I mean sure, any kind of harm can be considered bad. Nevertheless its quite different if you were to harm someone physically or if you have someone waiting 5 minutes for a spawn in a video game and you kill this npc that just spawned cause you just arrived. Now that person is harmed by you since he waited 5 minutes for the respawn and you didn’t wait at all and killed it, got your mission done and now he has to wait again.

The internet and this online interaction brings completely new problems that are not being handled properly and are very hard to be handled. There are so many things to consider here. The game Devs have it hard themselves when it comes to taking action. You always can play dead and have the people sort it themselves. In most of the cases they players do not quit the game cause of such issues and the Devs know that so they let it be, since there is no need to take action as things will sort themselves. Like I said there are many ways to approach this, but most people take the internet interaction as it is, its not personal and you can get away with everything since the people are miles away, so does it really matter?

I don't underestimate the effects of harmful behavior towards others especially when it's in an anonymous form of harassment over the internet.

Whether it's cheating with wall hacks, wintrading, whatever, sure, these behaviors don't physically hurt someone per se, but I don't lessen the impact they have on others.

This cheating actually damages the game because people quit when they see cheats. I quit games in the past because they were incapable of providing security and stopping hacks.

So anyone that actually values SWTOR ought to understand their personal achievements gained via cheating come with a big price tag, that being they are pushing players off the very game they supposedly enjoy playing so much.

You like the game, right? Then don't exhibit bad behavior that pushes people off the game. You hurt it when you cheat. Not just the players you cheating in the game.

And, I am not one of these people that are on the game constantly, who value it over all other life activities. I just view my time when I log in as value and I enjoy competitive matches against other players and cheating undermines that.

Also I am fully aware that saying cheating "hurts" someone, that in the scope of actual pain, sure it's not the same. But let's not minimalize the damage cheating has on games. When we are discussing the game on it's forums obviously I expect the topic to stay in that context not pull out individual words and start splitting hairs about what they actually mean. You know, like what "hurt" really is. Come on dude.

All of us know what hurt physical pain causes versus psychological and/or other forms of pain determined by the damage they cause or the "hurt." Sure, it's not physically damaging people, but it is ruining the game they play with you by cheating for yourself. Maybe you just never thought about it in that context, so here you are with the dots connected. Hope that helps.

Cheating is bad. Um, yeah. It is.

The question here is what do you actually think I was doing for the achievements? What is considering cheating. I only had one episode where it involved "hurting" other players and that stopped quite fast due to the impact. All the other stuff I did hasnt involved any other players so technically I ddint do anything wrong. As a matter of fact I know many players that HAVE "hurt" other players with their game play by doing achievements the bad way. When it comes to wintrading that is mostly done also by not "hurting" other players as its done in times when noone plays.

So overall I did little to damage this game on the contrary, I helped many many players, when servers were down i gave away cartel coin codes, I also gave many 60-day time card codes to players and not to mention the thousands of euros I spent on this game. So no, my achievement hunting was not "hurting" anyone (apart from that one case) and I think I have added way more to this game than many others.

The fact that you think this proves that you're an even worse person than many already thought you were. How you can be this delusional is incredible.

Many of the worst people in the world donate a lot to charities, which doesn't in any way absolve them of their bad behavior. You are a joke.

May I know how exactly?

Yes, that is true, but my case is different in my behavior is not bad, or just provide examples please. You need to realize that there are quite many people who hate me, but do not even know the reason why! For example a big guild on DM server spread info about me and that cause the whole guild to hate me, but when i asked individual players they didnt even know why.

Because not only have you engaged in harmful behavior, you're in complete denial of the harm you caused.

Your case is not different. I've seen all the evidence I need to see on your past actions in gsf and ranked to know that you're a deeply unethical individual. You yourself admitted that you get a thrill from circumventing the system. And yet you think that you haven't done anything wrong, because you're probably a psychopath.

Seriously, i mean, can you image what his FB posts are like? ugh..

I do have an FB account, yet I barely use it. I have nothing else, no twitter or anything. The only place I post is here

Players with 900 elo talking about season 12 rewards this is entertaining.

Yup, that is sadly the negative aspect of this system, which I mentioned right when it was introduced. I have to give it to the devs that its easy to criticise what they do and not offer anything ourselves. It was a good idea, but due to low participation it has its flaws.

What I find most funny is how many of the top pvpers say that they do not care about the rewards yet as soon as they reach 200 wins they stop playing that toon and hurry to the next