In Praise of the 6.1.1 Conquest Overhaul

excatly, I get CQ on the toons I need it on, for my guilds, and also get it on others, just playing the game, with an objective here and there as a slight detour. It's great

I can now plan lots more events in my guild AND be able to get our conquest goal while playing the game and having FUN doing it!! conquest is no longer a HUGE drag! it's awesome and I hope BioWare won't listen to the complainers. because this is GREAT for the game.

I think the conquest has been a great success. More people in my guild are looking to do stuff together and I see more people active than before

So you are upset you have to do group content for the same amount of time before the changes and others are able to complete faster doing other content?

If you don't like grinding group things for conquest do dailies and then do whatever you want perhaps?

I guess I am not seeing the problem. The devs made conquest available to everyone not just those that want to do lvl 75 group content. Seems like a win to me.

No, he's upset that his favorite activity doesn't give him billions on cq points. His whole arguments are all over the place, he keeps changing what he says, and even if people point out the flaws, he snips their comments, and tries to turn it around. Everyone who argues with him are wasting their time. Which is why some of us have put him on ignore, the more we respond, the more he argues. We all need to put him on ignore, and just reply to each other, every person that answers him is keeping his argumments going. We as a community need to ignore this person, and just keep posting the positives here, let him have his own thread, we'll stay here with ours

I *think* what Stradlin is claiming most recently is that as people focus on planetary dailies/heroics to grind conquest, because that is the most efficient, queues will dry up ... for everything: GSF, pvp, FP, etc.

In fact, that has NOT been my experience. And Stradlin's own data supports my experience: Stradlin was able to get 9 GSF matches in a 90 minute period, which would be a great GSF night in my book. In fact, I would argue that making conquest straightforward frees people to choose other things later in their play session.

So I agree, that the conquest changes are great! Did you hear that Sarfux and Ylliarus? I agree the conquest changes are great. I am capable of acknowledging some of my opponent's points, without agreeing with their conclusions.

No..As mentioned, queue times been entirely excluded from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_fuoocMHo&t=2502s
..Just as they were excluded from the previous 9 match experiment. On the video, eight matches and over 90 mins of GSF needed to reach conq target. It all happened over span of 3-4 hours or so, I went afk to wait and see if lag spikes woluld pass etc.

Speaking of reaching conq target via GSF....
When you are doing WZs, GSF and FPs, Socialite I and II dings are among the very few major daily dings you'll see. They are ofc shared by all this content. So any multiplayer activity eats from the table of others.Do WZs for an hour or two and you make GSF and FPs even worse conq for yourself on that day, and vice versa.

For very unfortunate reasons, (the pandemic) SWTOR and prolly more or less all other MMOs are living through a huge surge of activity. Huge majority of different studios realized this and understandby&kindly began capitalizing on the surge and boosting it further via things like double xp. Everything is much busier right now. Fortunately, it prolly won't last forever.(as in, Covid eventually withers away) I'm extremely happy if it turns out I'm completely wrong and queue is about as lively as it used to be once things are back to normal. Bypassing once-in-a-century turmoils, double xp alone has always, temporarily, injected life in to the game.


It really isn't a very bold claim. What other optioins are there to "grind conquest" now?
You wanna be part of this new super fast&efficient conquest? Feel like bringing in 400% more conq than anyone used to? Like the idea of being one of the many people bringing couple of dozen characters to Conq target? You better really like doing planetary daily missions then. Every week. In this context, you don't really have options.






Many others been using this same expression when talking about this. Do planetaries for a while and boom, "It frees people" It is actually very accurate. With what words would you usually describe the state&condition present until one is "set free" Slavery? Inprisonment? Basically, all other content is now behind this planetary mission mountain. How tall the mountain you need to climb depends on your own daily quota. You wanna bring 4 chars to target today real fast? Then you spend something like 90 mins doing planetaries. Once you are done, then and only then you have climbed over this mountain and can start looking at other content this game has besides soloable missions. Only then conq farmer feels he has met his daily quota and is free to actually do stuff he wants to do. Wouldn't it be nice to " be free" from the start? So you can actually choose content you wanna deal with to earn some great conquest instead of having to win this freedom by slaving on some planetrary missions first? Every day. Every week.

When someone is deliberately attempting to derail a thread … (particularly when ignoring facts) … I'm not sure what that is called (in internet terms). I know what we use to call folks like that in the old days. However, out of respect to others ( and not wanting to receive a warning from the mods who already have their hands full) … I will forgo a more direct ( and somewhat blunt) reprisal.

[note: "ignore" still works very nicely … ]

What 6.1.1 has provided is the one thing that was needed the most. It's results are seen in many different ways:
1. Choices for many players that was not previously available.
2. Out of those choices for many came a new found search for other things and a return to the basic concept of simply having fun.
3. It was and STILL IS one of the best things we've seen in a while.

Yes we have a lot of improvements and bugs to squash.

BUT... returning back to where this thread was originally headed (and rightly so) … hey BW TEAM !! Nicely done !!

[/ TWO THUMBS UP]
man … I wish we had that emote …

I Think, This Conquest Revamp, Has Been The Best Thing To Date!
I See More People Playing Than Before,
And The Double XP, .... Well Takes My Mind Off Of The Virus,
Kind Of Nice Of The Dev. Team To Step For Us Player's!!!
Thank You!

True but the interesting fact I have noticed lately is more people are grouping up doing the weeklies and heroics than they were before so not sure where they are getting it is hurting grouping when I have seen the direct opposite.