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merovejec
05.17.2020 , 12:06 PM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by ceryxp View Post
Repeatedly ignores empirical data, even claims it's meaningless, discredits experts in fields because it doesn't align with their message, refuses to even turn to an alleged local expert opinion, but relies on movie science and history. Irony implodes under the crushing depth. David Dunning and Justin Kruger boggle at such a case study. The dolphins don't even thank us for the fish. And the mice decide the experiment is over. Where's my towel?
Not once did you even react to what I wrote, you just keep repeating the same criticism. Tell, me if you lived 5000 years ago and I would tell you the earth is round, orbiting the sun would you believe me? Why? Becuase the experts of that time said its not! Now you listen also to experts! There are always experts that have different opinions. Even the czech expert has a different theory than the rest, what does that make her? Why arent all experts the same? Hmm could it be that there are good and bad experts? Who is a good one then?
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05.17.2020 , 12:31 PM | #302
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The flat earthers and antivaxxers use very similar arguments strangely.
Well maybe there is something to it, no?

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And Mero, the difference between Ceryxp's writing and yours is that, because his is presented as objective and accepted facts, I did in fact Google them for more depth.

You on the other hand, use arguments involving personal opinion with no basis in fact.
What he wrote was kinda common knowledge for me, I didnt even consider that as indepth facts. I told this numerous times, I am not an expert, but I have my experience and my opinion, I have writen that, thats all. I do not even know why people attack me so much just for speaking my mind.

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You jumped on my chickenpox thing, but let me further elaborate - because I had the chickenpox as a kid, I can now develop shingles later. If I'd gotten a shot, to my understanding at least, I wouldn't have to worry about that complication.
This is a rare thing and the reason for it is still unclear. I told you that applying a vaccine with its contents is not better than experiencing chickenpox and then risking of having this. But its individual, thats how I view it.

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You also ignored my point about eliminating smallpox and lessening the measles/polio/etc.
Sorry about that. Well, Covid-19 spread was lessened without vaccines, right?

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I do, however, respect someone capable of making a rational, objective argument.
Well, thats ok. I respect someone who is able to look beyond what he knows and just for a second or 2 look at the world from a different perspective. If he cannot do that, then he is lost.
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05.17.2020 , 12:34 PM | #303
Anyway, my wife went around my table and saw the discussion and she told me to stop it as I will not convince you (even though I just want you to think differently) and you will not convince me so this will be all from my side. I will not discuss anymore, as you there is nothing to discus when people do not have the ability to see the universe from all angles.
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KendraP
05.17.2020 , 01:00 PM | #304
Since you supposedly like sources, shingles will occur in 1 in every 3 people in the US. https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/surveillance.html

The chickenpox vaccine severe adverse effects were so rare, they could not in fact be definitely linked to the shot itself. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/va...a-vaccine.html

I just don't see how someone who styles himself as reasonable could see any value in the arguments provided by flat earthers or antivaxxers. The only source you provided that supposedly knocked flu vaccines, actually explained why flu vaccines weren't bad. Flat earthers are no better than conspiracy theorists. And the antivax movement gained steam from a long retracted due to being blatantly flawed study that has been disproven dozens of times over, so in my opinion, they're little better than conspiracy theorists themselves.

I'm not pretending to be an expert on something I'm not. Come see me when you wish to talk about aerodynamics or aircraft structures, my admittedly impractical interest being airbreathing hypersonics (i.e. ram/scramjets). When it comes to vaccines I trust the experts, and it is obvious you are not one, so why would i listen to you over my doctor or the CDC?

As for the covid-quashing, that remains yet to be seen.

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05.17.2020 , 01:09 PM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by merovejec View Post
Anyway, my wife went around my table and saw the discussion and she told me to stop it as I will not convince you (even though I just want you to think differently) and you will not convince me so this will be all from my side. I will not discuss anymore, as you there is nothing to discus when people do not have the ability to see the universe from all angles.
You married up.

Dasty

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Pirana
05.17.2020 , 01:13 PM | #306
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You married up.

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merovejec
05.17.2020 , 01:54 PM | #307
Quote: Originally Posted by KendraP View Post
Since you supposedly like sources....
Sorry mate, you came late to the party, luke I posted above I am done here.
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merovejec
05.17.2020 , 01:55 PM | #308
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You married up.

Dasty
Women are always right you know.
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Jdast
05.17.2020 , 02:01 PM | #309
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Women are always right you know.
I know!!!! But it's a conundrum being male and having a husband.

We have to suffice with just dancing really well and looking fffffaaaabbbbuullllouuussss in speedos.

FYI, Do you have any idea how difficult it is for a Hutt to slither into a speedo? It's practically like putting toothpaste back in the tube!!!!

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KendraP
05.17.2020 , 02:03 PM | #310
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Sorry mate, you came late to the party, luke I posted above I am done here.
Then why did you bother replying?