Grit Teeth Tactical - Guardian/Juggernaut

Jugg was ok in 5.10. They weren't the best but they were average. I don't how juggs were in 4.0 sorry.

To be fair in 6.0 most classes are viable. The only exceptions are hatred sin, madness sorc, and jugg. Class balance is doing decently fine.

Jiraya was the best Jugg/Guardian to play this game.
R.I.P

Ok, so......I have been playing on and off the past couple of nights. The Undying set seems to perform decently vs melee but way underperforms against ranged classes, especially sorcs. Any type of dot/bleed seems to ignore the 20% dmg reduction.

Also, the set , imo, needs a bit of a tweak. Either a slight increase in dmg reduction or and extension of the 6 sec to maybe 8-10. Against melee classes, I could get the tactical to proc several times in a fight but was completely burned down by ranged, especially if there were more than two of them banging on me.

Next step is to rework my mods....thinking about going to B's vs the R's. I just don't want to give up much more dmg production to increase my HP's. I will see if it too dramatic of a drop.

Now that you mention it, I've been getting the feeling that furious power's damage boost, or whatever it does because the devs were so damn vague, doesn't provide any visible change in the numbers a specific attack does when it consumes a power stack. It's similar to how your Undying DR isn't seeming to have any effect on dots when it should. I'm thinking either this is just a sign of the devs' endemic problems with scaling in this expansion, or the boost is capped for most stuff, or in your case, the description of what abilities do is nothing at all what happens in practice. A lot of things need to be tweaked or have a total overhaul from what was done at first.

I gave the Force Bound set a spin, and it am not seeing change in incoming damage. Even when I catch 3 people with IR I am, I am still taking wild damage. Even more so, my damage is absolutely terrible now, basically cut in half. Back to Decent for me.

I hate facing players with this tactical in duels as a dot spec player. One ED was hard enough to have to play around. Two or more is just ridiculous. Less OP though in actual 4v4 or 8v8 matches if the team focuses the jugg hard enough.

Exactly! Very frustrating as a fan of Juggs/Guardians. I would say that I am pretty good with the class and it pisses me off that they are bottom dwellers in ranked. Although I can't see or hear my teammates expressions when they see a dps jugg enter the staging area for a ranked match, I am sure there is a lot of eye rolling and oh *****! lol

I am almost there. My favorite tactical for a veng jugg is the hemophilic slash. I miss it. You can pump some serious dmg with it. When applied, it seems like every single burn crits at once when they refresh.

I was able to play 7 ranked matches last night on SF. Went 5-2 (one loss was a thrown match). Overall, I was very pleased. I was able to use the tactical several times in matches. It all about blowing your FD/ED first and then managing your other defensive cd's to be able to use Grit as quick as possible again. Undying was extremely helpful also. The 20% dmg reduction was noticeable in the matches. Six seconds in ranked is an eternity.

Dmg was not an issue either. The one match I looked stupid in was vs two sorcs, a pt, and an op. They absolutely wrecked me....

Do you mind if I ask what was your character name? I was also on SF last night and might have been in your games.