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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Parkerdude
12.31.2011 , 04:58 AM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by Redru View Post
1v1 on my commando that get's knocked down (level 50 and both geared), I win the fight with about 35-40% of my health. I played the scrapper (Operative equiv) and understand how they work. Commando's can totally burst them down. You can also tricket the knockdown instantly and use your aoe talented knockback before their GDC is up for another attack. I do it all the time.

I love hearing the 'swish' noise of operatives in warzones because I love making them think twice about popping out of stealth.

Of course, I did get owned by operatives at first because I didn't understand how to beat it.

Merc/commando > OP.
Not everyone is a Merc in Heavy armor -.-

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Raggok
12.31.2011 , 05:03 AM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by Redru View Post
Commando's would like to say hi.

As a 50 PVP geared commando I kill 50 geared Imp Op's without trouble if I have my trinket available. They can't backstab while I channel gravround. Autoface FTW. I out dps them everytime.

So if a commando/merc can kill a god, what does that make them?
Autoface takes zero skill, while moving to get positionals takes skill. Do you see a problem here? I do.

I'll never respect any autofacing turret class. Although I understand why they are in the game.
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Orangerascal
12.31.2011 , 05:04 AM | #313
These forums are funny. While I do think the operative is doing too much damage atm, most people aren't 50 and don't have the gear yet, so we don't know how the operative plays in the meta end game. The high burst damage might be needed for their intended role.

Wait for bioware to get the metrics and if they don't think it's right they will fix it and remember this game is not balanced for 1v1 gameplay.
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Gratus_Mortuus
12.31.2011 , 05:26 AM | #314
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
These forums are funny. While I do think the operative is doing too much damage atm, most people aren't 50 and don't have the gear yet, so we don't know how the operative plays in the meta end game. The high burst damage might be needed for their intended role.

Wait for bioware to get the metrics and if they don't think it's right they will fix it and remember this game is not balanced for 1v1 gameplay.
Nothing valid being posted in this PvP forum is news to BW. The beta testers explained about Scoundrels, Operatives and SI's all during closed beta. The lack of any tier at all in warzones speaks volumes. Clearly, PvP, if it's on the list, is at the bottom. This is a PvE game and the PvP is frustrating many for valid reasons that BW is responsible for.

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Bandelederen
12.31.2011 , 06:30 AM | #315
This is getting rather tedious. Everyone knows Scoundrels/Operatives will recieve a nerf eventually. We got a few of these classes and others coming into this thread who are either:

1. Baddies and can't produce these results themselves thereby doesn't think they need a nerf.

2. People who, even though they know their class is super OP, comes into this thread proclaiming they arent, in the hope that they won't nerf them so they can reign supreme for longer.

The only question is.

How long will it take them to fix?

Some people say this is a PvE game. Sure but im here for the PvP though, so if this persists beyond the free month, perhaps +1 more, im out of here. And I know alot of others who are too. I know you don't care, but Bioware cares, 'caus they want the PvP'ers money. Which they won't get if this goes on for too long.

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Angst
12.31.2011 , 06:32 AM | #316
I can tell you that Hidden strike IMMEDIATELY fills the enemies resolve bar. So how you're getting stunned twice is impossible.

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Darth__Carnal
12.31.2011 , 06:36 AM | #317
I like the part where Bioware said, NO 1 SHOT KILLS...

However they in their infinite wisdom, didn't adequate 11k of damage in 2-3 seconds as the same thing.

Perfect example of sitting around crunching numbers, but not playing the game.
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Reenolols
12.31.2011 , 08:11 AM | #318
Got two 50 vids up.
Reeno: Nub 70+ Operative | Reenow: 55+ Marauder
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Vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/Reeno23/videos

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Bandelederen
12.31.2011 , 08:43 AM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by Reenolols View Post
Got two 50 vids up.
Low and behold, Operative/Scoundrel the supreme ruler of PvP.

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thebess
12.31.2011 , 09:22 AM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by Reenolols View Post
Got two 50 vids up.
Those videos basically show exactly why the damage on some skills is beyond broken.

Press one of two buttons and have insta-cast 2-6k crits.........on GCD........

If you think someone being able to spam a few buttons and hit for 2k+ each time ON A GCD is balanced/skill/correct.......you are insane.