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Bioware needs a new philosophy

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RollingDeep
12.31.2011 , 03:16 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Sohtaraz View Post
Why do people assume that critism of your game has to be suggestions?

I'm sorry did I misunderstood what does PAYING a company to develop and maintain an MMO involve? Are we supposed to develop the gameplay changes and freature fixes on behalf of developers while they roll around the money that we gave them?


And yes the flashpoints are a valid point. Its annoying to go to a flashpoint from a planet sometimes and it breaks the entire leveling experience in half. This is nowhere near a good system specially when you compare the level of flashpoints, some of them are barely more then glorified grinding sessions with flashy elites instead of normal mobs.

And yes, with the current LFG system this will mean that all the end game population will be sitting in the same area, the flashpoint area, since its most convinient for them making the zone most likely laggy and rest of the space station deserted.
I'm sorry but can I get a game where that's not what the end game population did? Only instead of a city it's a space station. And criticism just to be critical is pointless. It's a waste of time that could be better spent doing almost anything else. That's y most people are asking for a suggestion. Otherwise you a hinderance to the solution, w/e it may be, not helping to achieve that solution.

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Blackwater
12.31.2011 , 03:16 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by darthdoll View Post
You say its a horrible design flaw...

Let me ask you this, have you ever made a video game?

Have you been involved in a dev team by chance?

If 1 of the answers are no, then you have no idea about design and or flaws

Thank you.
Oooo this is a logically fallacy I haven't seen in a while!

Let me ask you this. Am I not allowed to say that food tastes bad just because I'm not a chef?

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Aiyana
12.31.2011 , 03:17 AM | #63
Games been officially out less then 2 weeks even if you got in day one of EA you have been playing what maybe 20 days. End game is End game no company in their right minds would be concentrating on end game content this early. And no investors would approve should a stupid move.

Most people playing MMOs never even get to end game. And in most MMOs only a select few really get to play it anyway as it quickly gets dominated by end game guilds that only do the content.

Let me say in plain English. Catering to 1% or even 10% of your costumer base at the expense of the rest is bad business in any book.
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Arkerus
12.31.2011 , 03:17 AM | #64
NIntendo, EA, and portions of Sony have withdrawn their support of the bill. It has a very little chance of passing now. The public may actually be winning the war.

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Grrl
12.31.2011 , 03:18 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Ascendic View Post
Most game / music / movie producers will blindly support such a bill because they think it will amount to more $$$ for them.

What a joke. It will never fix the problem because the problem is un-fixable. It is like making harsh laws for murderers, guess what? You could say you will put every murderer in the electric chair -- they will still do it.

Ridiculous bills and laws like this just show how out of touch politicians and industry executives are with the internet world (or world in general).

If anything passing laughable laws like this will only light the fire in the hacker / pirating community and eventually start a cyber war of which the government WILL LOSE. People will band together and create their own private networks just like they used to be, then what? MPAA / RIAA / Gaming industry will go QQ in the corner until the government revokes privacy rights and starts tapping and invading private networks, and then what?

You can not defeat an ever adaptive changing enemy with endless soldiers.

Stop trying.
Yes.

The truth is that pirating helps to market a product, hence is responsible for a commercial success. Just look at the most pirated stuff it all is the top market products. Adobe Photoshop only became a standard because it was so widely available. And Photoshop basically is a ripoff from an amiga paint program called deluxe paint... anyway.

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JustSoPro
12.31.2011 , 03:20 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
NIntendo, EA, and portions of Sony have withdrawn their support of the bill. It has a very little chance of passing now. The public may actually be winning the war.
Why do I even bother trying to inform the stupid...

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Blackwater
12.31.2011 , 03:20 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Aiyana View Post
Games been officially out less then 2 weeks even if you got in day one of EA you have been playing what maybe 20 days. End game is End game no company in their right minds would be concentrating on end game content this early. And no investors would approve should a stupid move.

Most people playing MMOs never even get to end game. And in most MMOs only a select few really get to play it anyway as it quickly gets dominated by end game guilds that only do the content.

Let me say in plain English. Catering to 1% or even 10% of your costumer base at the expense of the rest is bad business in any book.
Catering to the people that continue to pay the monthly fee after the first month is bad business?

Wow, thanks for clearing that up for me. I wish you were in congress when the housing market collapsed, we could have been out of that crisis in no time!

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Sohtaraz
12.31.2011 , 03:23 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by RollingDeep
I'm sorry but can I get a game where that's not what the end game population did? Only instead of a city it's a space station. And criticism just to be critical is pointless. It's a waste of time that could be better spent doing almost anything else. That's y most people are asking for a suggestion. Otherwise you a hinderance to the solution, w/e it may be, not helping to achieve that solution.
Im just curious how do you create solutions to problems without being aware of problems? Critism has allways been a key factor of letting developers know where they are going wrong and this will allways be a case since that creates discussion on possible suggestions.

Also ALL suggestions have to be critised as well in order to iron out the kinks and think out of the box, do you think thats a wortless too and shoulnd't be done at all so we just get compromises to problems?

Problem is that constructive critism is something that has substance, discussion possible problem sides of both sides (for example pointing out both pvp gear is flawed and the system getting them meaning any solution that does not fix both of these issues will resolve in other issues) but most people are too busy just screaming when someone says "theres an issue" that your not suggesting how its supposed to be fixed. Most people don't want to tell those fixes becouse they will get critised and thats fine, they are not paid developers so why should they be forced to go trough it?

And yes solutions should be hinderenced before implementing and after implementing if they have issues. Thats usually how you end up fixing issues.

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Ascendic
12.31.2011 , 03:24 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
Oooo this is a logically fallacy I haven't seen in a while!

Let me ask you this. Am I not allowed to say that food tastes bad just because I'm not a chef?
No you are not because you would clearly have no idea what good food would taste like.

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Arkerus
12.31.2011 , 03:24 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by JustSoPro View Post
Why do I even bother trying to inform the stupid...
What the hell are you talking about? I just made a comment on SOPA because I saw it mentioned earlier. Pull the stick out of your rear side.