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Report from the ranked front lines, from a rookie

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Report from the ranked front lines, from a rookie

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Banderal
02.28.2019 , 12:37 PM | #1
So, I just finished my first "monumental" mission, and for those who might be on the fence about the reaction they'd get giving ranked a try, I thought I would report my experience.

I actually started the monumental crystal quest a bit late, because I didn't realize it wasn't just the normal ranked pvp weekly. I was about 1/2 way through the "50 point" weekly when I picked up the monumental. So, effectively, I did a 75 point monumental.

I'm in 248 gear, and an infil shadow (decpti-sin ). My current win/loss is 12 wins and 16 losses. My rank is currently 1076, with highest of 1132. So I'm hardly good at this. But I do follow plans. (Or make them, I get marked leader a LOT for some reason.) I'm getting better at using focus-target to "cc the healer", and to remember to use terrain to LOS and survive when focused myself. So I'm not going in with the idea that "I'm just here to get matts". I'm trying to win just as much as the next guy/girl.

With that attitude and skill level... overall, ranked was fine. I actually found, believe it or not, LESS toxicity in solo ranked than often happens in regs. No one screamed at me to get better gear. No one ranted at me to get out of ranked. A couple times I got told I should be doing more damage. Out of those two, one of them actually gave some tips on how to do that, and then the next round my DPS improved some!

For the most part, everyone is trying. There's quite a bit of planning in most games, with people willing to talk about "how do we change things up for round 2" after we lose round 1 (or for round 3 if we lose round 2). Every once in a while someone will complain that a lone survivor should "just /stuck it". Which I guess I get. I mean, I find some value in practicing to survive as long as possible, in prep for the next time I'm focused. But I can also see their point of "you are not going to 1v4 them, quit wasting our time". But even that complaint I've found to be relatively rare.

Overall, it's been a pretty positive experience. Just my experience, of course, but there you go.

Slippery When'wet, FistFullOfCandy - SF

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JediMasterAlex
02.28.2019 , 02:32 PM | #2
I was in 4 of those games with you (on 2 different chars). I think you're the kind of newcomer that any veteran solo ranked player appreciates. You're good enough that you don't get globaled, you're not delusional about your own skill level, and you're clearly trying to win and improve. I don't find it surprising that your experience hasn't been very toxic.

The people that get the toxicity, sometimes deservedly, are the inverse of what I described above: they get globaled constantly, are delusional about their skill level, and they don't take any advice or try to get better.

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xMaranathax
02.28.2019 , 02:36 PM | #3
Which server is this on?

Ranked can be lots of fun with the right people. Thanks for reporting, soldier! Hope you can stick it out and become a main stay in the queue.

Talyc Manda
Aliit ori'shya tal'din

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Banderal
02.28.2019 , 02:47 PM | #4
I'm on Star Forge, playing my Slippery When'Wet toon. I thought about going in with Candy, but she's a tank, and for my money, tanking in ranked matches is very difficult. I know from regs that I can do ok with the guard swapping and taunts and peels for people part, but I can't do damage at the same time. And I also know from regs that good tanks can. So I didn't feel I was really ready to do ranked justice on a tank.

And thanks for the encouragement JMAlex! Yeah, I specifically wrote in my original post about my gear level and actually trying. Even in regs it bothers me when people don't even try. I don't typically rage about it, because I'm just not a rage-type person (I'll log out instead). And for ranked, I mean, people should have some respect for the other folks that are there doing the same content. Even if I'm drawn to ranked because of the ossus rep and the gear grind (shudder), well, I'm still going to approach it something I should be doing "right".

So I kinda wanted that to come out in my report. Show some respect for the people who are there with you, and I think you can expect some respect back.

Slippery When'wet, FistFullOfCandy - SF

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Lundorff
02.28.2019 , 04:28 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Banderal View Post
I'm on Star Forge, playing my Slippery When'Wet toon. I thought about going in with Candy, but she's a tank, and for my money, tanking in ranked matches is very difficult. I know from regs that I can do ok with the guard swapping and taunts and peels for people part, but I can't do damage at the same time. And I also know from regs that good tanks can. So I didn't feel I was really ready to do ranked justice on a tank.

And thanks for the encouragement JMAlex! Yeah, I specifically wrote in my original post about my gear level and actually trying. Even in regs it bothers me when people don't even try. I don't typically rage about it, because I'm just not a rage-type person (I'll log out instead). And for ranked, I mean, people should have some respect for the other folks that are there doing the same content. Even if I'm drawn to ranked because of the ossus rep and the gear grind (shudder), well, I'm still going to approach it something I should be doing "right".

So I kinda wanted that to come out in my report. Show some respect for the people who are there with you, and I think you can expect some respect back.
You sorta just have to dive in with the tank, and ignore whatever verbal abuse comes your way. If you already have experience from regs, then ranked is the only way forward. I suppose you could train with guild members, but it would not be the same by a mile.

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Lhancelot
02.28.2019 , 06:32 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Lundorff View Post
You sorta just have to dive in with the tank, and ignore whatever verbal abuse comes your way. If you already have experience from regs, then ranked is the only way forward. I suppose you could train with guild members, but it would not be the same by a mile.
Plus Banderal, on a tank you'd have higher defense, a shield, better DCDs all to ward away the verbal abuse hurled at you. You'd be better equipped to handle any corrosion from the toxicity as a tank is what I am saying.
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DNGDangerous
02.28.2019 , 10:34 PM | #7
Honestly after grinding enough games to get my 258 weapons, I can say this about solo ranked:

I am fairly new to ranked ques, and these are the impressions of a noobie...
1) there are people who will say mean things... but honestly, I can’t blame them for it. I am definitely in a much lower skill level then they are, and it shows.

2) much to my surprise, there are a lot of nice players in solo ranked ques as well, players that are willing to teach new players. I learned a lot from these people, and it was very refreshing to know that there are players out there who will welcome a noobie into the ranked community!

3) I hope more people try out ranked solo, they might find it fun!

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TrixxieTriss
03.01.2019 , 12:53 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Banderal View Post
So, I just finished my first "monumental" mission, and for those who might be on the fence about the reaction they'd get giving ranked a try, I thought I would report my experience.

I actually started the monumental crystal quest a bit late, because I didn't realize it wasn't just the normal ranked pvp weekly. I was about 1/2 way through the "50 point" weekly when I picked up the monumental. So, effectively, I did a 75 point monumental.

I'm in 248 gear, and an infil shadow (decpti-sin ). My current win/loss is 12 wins and 16 losses. My rank is currently 1076, with highest of 1132. So I'm hardly good at this. But I do follow plans. (Or make them, I get marked leader a LOT for some reason.) I'm getting better at using focus-target to "cc the healer", and to remember to use terrain to LOS and survive when focused myself. So I'm not going in with the idea that "I'm just here to get matts". I'm trying to win just as much as the next guy/girl.

With that attitude and skill level... overall, ranked was fine. I actually found, believe it or not, LESS toxicity in solo ranked than often happens in regs. No one screamed at me to get better gear. No one ranted at me to get out of ranked. A couple times I got told I should be doing more damage. Out of those two, one of them actually gave some tips on how to do that, and then the next round my DPS improved some!

For the most part, everyone is trying. There's quite a bit of planning in most games, with people willing to talk about "how do we change things up for round 2" after we lose round 1 (or for round 3 if we lose round 2). Every once in a while someone will complain that a lone survivor should "just /stuck it". Which I guess I get. I mean, I find some value in practicing to survive as long as possible, in prep for the next time I'm focused. But I can also see their point of "you are not going to 1v4 them, quit wasting our time". But even that complaint I've found to be relatively rare.

Overall, it's been a pretty positive experience. Just my experience, of course, but there you go.
I’m having the same experience as you. A lot of people willing to help and discuss strats. This actually feels more like ranked when we had apac servers.

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xMaranathax
03.01.2019 , 01:14 AM | #9
I decided to hop in the solo rank queue tonight and Im slightly impressed by the helpful people in the queue, but there are those select few that can ruin a night if you don't have thick skin. I was told many times that I wasn't playing right, that I chose a non-viable class, and that I need to quit the game several times.

The funny part is, after looking at the leaderboards and seeing their rating compared to mine, I'm happy to say I out rate most of those who complained.

Working my way to the top PT position. Hope I have more good nights like I did tonight!

Talyc Manda
Aliit ori'shya tal'din

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TrixxieTriss
03.01.2019 , 01:20 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by xMaranathax View Post
I decided to hop in the solo rank queue tonight and Im slightly impressed by the helpful people in the queue, but there are those select few that can ruin a night if you don't have thick skin. I was told many times that I wasn't playing right, that I chose a non-viable class, and that I need to quit the game several times.

The funny part is, after looking at the leaderboards and seeing their rating compared to mine, I'm happy to say I out rate most of those who complained.

Working my way to the top PT position. Hope I have more good nights like I did tonight!
Keep sticking it out. You have to be a brave person to take a PT into ranked