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How The Old Republic can compete and beat Guild Wars 2

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How The Old Republic can compete and beat Guild Wars 2

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oflow
12.30.2011 , 02:46 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazooki View Post
There really isn't any competing since GW2 is B2p.

Besides, endgame in guild wars 2 is going to suck. Arena net releases content patches maybe once or twice a YEAR!
Thats because GW is a pvp game. If you actually play with a guild and pvp its very fun. End game is pve not pvp. PvPers dont care about endgame they dont even do hardcore pve for themost part.

Also, GW2 is actually totally different than GW1. TOR is more like GW1 than GW2 will be.
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Daxramas
12.30.2011 , 10:37 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by kidatwood View Post
i wonder how many content patches gw2 is going to have after release? ive never played gw but is it micro transitions. i cant see how there going to make money to keep the game running im sure it wont be off the initial box sales.............
Again, do at least a little research, the first guild wars was buy to play with micro transactions yes, so will GW2. What people need to understand is, yes, that does generate enough money to run the game perfectly fine, even with their item store only selling cosmetics as well as say, character slots. Nothing breaking the game. ArenaNet have already shown with their previous title that they fully commit to their game and not just drop it and milk as much money as possible like other companies have done.

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Rhysling
12.30.2011 , 10:38 PM | #93
Well I played GW for about 30 mins and then never touched it again. I don't think GW2 will be much better.

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Kalfear
12.30.2011 , 10:40 PM | #94
TOR already beat GW2

GW2 releasing will only create a bigger gap with TOR in the lead

GW2 is B2P for a reason so time people accept that game for what it is

TORs not perfect, not by a country mile,but its still better then anything GW2 will ever offer up
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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Bubba_Jett
12.30.2011 , 10:54 PM | #95
Again, B2P is not F2P. GW2 is AAA MMO. Though I think they would do well to go ahead and go with a Subscription model in the US. It is very hard to change the mind of the consumer. Most consumers believe "How can it be better if it doesnt have a subscription fee? Wow and SWTOR have a sub fee, how can a B2P be better?"

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Bloodtau
12.30.2011 , 10:59 PM | #96
Guild wars 2 has this game beat, hands down. It is ACTUALLY doing something to change the genre and put in new features, unlike bore wars: The boring republic here.

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Khechari
12.30.2011 , 11:11 PM | #97
If not for the lack of end game pve, I would be completely confident in GW2. People who play the demo are typically blown away, not impressed, but blown away. Take someone like Totalbiscuit for example, (who has been saying some very nice things about SWTOR lately btw), after playing the demo, he believes GW2 WILL be the mmo he'll play.

Don't get me wrong, I don't follow what anyone says as absolute, but I typically agree with him.

So ya, end game PVE is very important to me. So without that, GW2 may fail me, despite the fact that I think it will be superior to SWTOR in most ways (of course not story though).

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Khechari
12.30.2011 , 11:17 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by dontadow View Post
google guild wars 2 dragon fight, the actual epic fight, not the midboss. I've playd that, most amazing combat ever and very realistic to how dragons are presented in novels, huge hulking beasts that take tons of tactics to take down.
The only 2 dragons we've seen from GW2 thus far are The Shatterer and the one shown in the video. Both are Mid-Level dragon fights. ArenaNet has said of both of them, that they are some of the SMALLER dragons in GW2.

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Sanquind
12.30.2011 , 11:19 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodtau View Post
Guild wars 2 has this game beat, hands down. It is ACTUALLY doing something to change the genre and put in new features, unlike bore wars: The boring republic here.
They said the same about AoC, RIFT, DDO, Aion, LotR and DCUO. They would all beat WoW, or at least be a serious competitor. Yet they all failed once they launched. Heck, AoC, DDO and DCUO all tried to change the genre as well, but they all failed as people didn't like the changes. They wanted those games to be more like WoW.

Innovation does not equate being better. And hype before launch or even an open-ish beta does not mean it will be a good game either. The past proves this. How about you all just effing wait until GW2 has been properly tested? As in, when at least 30,000+ random players have played it for a week or more? THEN we can talk about if it's better or not.
I said that this isn't WoW. But I was wrong. Combat log, dual spec, 16 man raids going to be easier than 8 mans... No, this game is exactly WoW in a star wars skin. They're just subtle about copying it, by slowly implementing WoW features over time.

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Bezit
12.30.2011 , 11:26 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
And like others pointed out, healing was one of the strong points of Guild Wars 1. I criticized and lost much of my excitement when they announced the end of the dedicated healers, because i understand that that is also the death of team-play based content. Everything will just be one big zerg with potion spamming... sound familiar? Yes, because its been done before by other games.
You must have never played a moba. (League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth, DoTa, etc.) there aren't any "dedicated" healers in those games but there are support characters that can throw out heals and silences and debuff groups of enemies. If anet does it right and makes specs in the game more support-ish and other specs more damage and others more control, they can really make something great. LoL is pretty even aslong as it's smart players vs smart players, if you feed any champ they are gonna be greatly overpowered, if you play smart and team fight after mid game then you will come out ahead.

TL;DR - MOBAs are perfectly fine without healers in a competition enviroment. **** the prize pools for LoL tournaments are larger than SC2, WoW and any FPS combined. GW2 will be worth the buy, maybe not to play for 7 years like I have wow, but just the same as SWTOR has it's value.