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Update 5.10 and Alliance Alerts

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Update 5.10 and Alliance Alerts
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CharlesBoyd
11.20.2018 , 03:20 PM | #1 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Hi folks!

During our livestream where we first revealed the details of Update 5.10: Jedi Under Siege, I mentioned that when Players begin the storyline in that update, any Alliance Alerts they hadn't completed on that character would be auto-completed for them, and that we'd give out more details later. Well, it's later now, so here are some details!

We have actually changed our plans on this pretty significantly, but the short version is: When starting the first new storyline mission in Update 5.10, the light-side Arcann Alliance Alert will be auto-completed if it hasn't been completed already; no other Alliance Alerts will be auto-completed.

Why pick on Arcann? It relates to his romance; since Alliance Alerts aren't generally required to be finished before moving forward in the main storyline, it would hypothetically be possible to have Arcann's Alliance Alert sitting on a character for years before completing it and, potentially, choosing to start a romance with him. To prevent this from causing issues with future romances, we need to know that you can no longer begin a romance with Arcann via that mission once a character has begun the storyline in 5.10. (Remember: if you complete his alert before starting the first storyline mission in 5.10, then nothing will change with him or his alert at all.)

For similar reasons, going forward, starting new romances with certain returning class companion characters may preclude resuming a romance with other returning class companion characters. For example, choosing to begin a romance with Nadia in update 5.10 would preclude you from resuming an existing romance with Felix Iresso if you hadn't already done so via his Alliance Alert. You will always get a warning confirmation on choices like this.

Outside of Alliance Alerts, beginning the first storyline mission in 5.10 will still auto-complete all other storylines, much like starting KOTFE. As with KOTFE, our general guideline for what choices are set by default is that Republic characters are assumed to make light side choices, and Imperial characters are assumed to make dark side choices. As examples, I've highlighted some of the major choices and how they default below, including a few where we have exceptions to the general guideline. Spoilers, of course!
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So you can see there are some complexities and exceptions to the general guideline, but it's pretty consistent overall. None of this applies to a character who has already completed these storylines, of course, so if you want to see different variables set for your character, I would encourage you to play through the storylines before starting Jedi Under Siege

If you have any questions about the auto-complete process when starting Jedi Under Siege, don't hesitate to ask!

Thanks everyone!

EDIT:
Some quick additions, based on questions I've seen coming up:
  • If your character has already completed everything available before 5.10, nothing in this post applies. Auto-complete is only used for characters who haven't finished the previous content.
  • Other than the Arcann Alliance Alert, NO Alliance Alerts are being affected. They will all work as they do now.
  • When auto-completing the Arcann Alliance Alert, your character is assumed to NOT romance Arcann. If you want to romance him, do his alert before starting Jedi Under Siege's first story mission
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11.20.2018 , 04:28 PM | #2
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OldVengeance
11.20.2018 , 04:36 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by CharlesBoyd View Post
Hi folks!

During our livestream where we first revealed the details of Update 5.10: Jedi Under Siege, I mentioned that when Players begin the storyline in that update, any Alliance Alerts they hadn't completed on that character would be auto-completed for them, and that we'd give out more details later. Well, it's later now, so here are some details!

We have actually changed our plans on this pretty significantly, but the short version is: When starting the first new storyline mission in Update 5.10, the light-side Arcann Alliance Alert will be auto-completed if it hasn't been completed already; no other Alliance Alerts will be auto-completed.

This is certainly big news and very helpful in clarifying things. Before I had wondered if leaving the their alert unfinished would cause the game to choose Skadge or Rusk for me, or if failing to complete something like the PVP mission would autocomplete and give you the companion anyway.

So this means those non romance types of alerts will remain in our Alliance Alert List and be doable even after starting 5.10?

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kukumburr
11.20.2018 , 04:37 PM | #4
That sounds good. Does this auto-complete the Fractured Alliances (Iokath daily intro mission) and other yellow missions? Like Oricon and stuff? Or is it just the main purple missions? And will it remove the Makeb mission that has been sitting in my mission log forever?

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Paziqi
11.20.2018 , 04:45 PM | #5
Thanks for the info, it is good to know exactly how this is all going to work.

I admit though, that I am a little disappointed. I had hoped that the coming autocomplete would mean I could finally get rid of that flashing triangle. There are comps that just don't fit with some of my characters, and I'd rather not have to recruit them, but that is my only option to get rid of the flashing triangle. Minor annoyance, to be sure, but still an annoyance. Is there anyway you could look into having a reject companion option, or a way to turn that triangle off?

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Wimbleton
11.20.2018 , 04:50 PM | #6
This is really important and useful information. I thank you for spending lots of time on this. Fantastic! I'll definitely continue to sub after reading this really important and useful information.

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OldVengeance
11.20.2018 , 04:51 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Paziqi View Post
Thanks for the info, it is good to know exactly how this is all going to work.

I admit though, that I am a little disappointed. I had hoped that the coming autocomplete would mean I could finally get rid of that flashing triangle. There are comps that just don't fit with some of my characters, and I'd rather not have to recruit them, but that is my only option to get rid of the flashing triangle. Minor annoyance, to be sure, but still an annoyance. Is there anyway you could look into having a reject companion option, or a way to turn that triangle off?
The flashing triangle is really annoying. But I believe one way to get rid of it would be to start the Alert so it appears in your Quest Log. It's not a perfect solution, and this would only work if you have room, of course. It does get rid of the blinking light on your UI, however.

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HKtheindomitable
11.20.2018 , 04:53 PM | #8
Awesome details.

How are the missions such as Lokin, M1-4X, Pierce, and Bowdaar being handled since they require missions to be completed before recruiting and can't simply be recruited outright like Qyzen can with a Consular?
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bluehufsa
11.20.2018 , 04:55 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by CharlesBoyd View Post
Hi folks!

During our livestream where we first revealed the details of Update 5.10: Jedi Under Siege, I mentioned that when Players begin the storyline in that update, any Alliance Alerts they hadn't completed on that character would be auto-completed for them, and that we'd give out more details later. Well, it's later now, so here are some details!

We have actually changed our plans on this pretty significantly, but the short version is: When starting the first new storyline mission in Update 5.10, the light-side Arcann Alliance Alert will be auto-completed if it hasn't been completed already; no other Alliance Alerts will be auto-completed.

Why pick on Arcann? It relates to his romance; since Alliance Alerts aren't generally required to be finished before moving forward in the main storyline, it would hypothetically be possible to have Arcann's Alliance Alert sitting on a character for years before completing it and, potentially, choosing to start a romance with him. To prevent this from causing issues with future romances, we need to know that you can no longer begin a romance with Arcann via that mission once a character has begun the storyline in 5.10. (Remember: if you complete his alert before starting the first storyline mission in 5.10, then nothing will change with him or his alert at all.)

For similar reasons, going forward, starting new romances with certain returning class companion characters may preclude resuming a romance with other returning class companion characters. For example, choosing to begin a romance with Nadia in update 5.10 would preclude you from resuming an existing romance with Felix Iresso if you hadn't already done so via his Alliance Alert. You will always get a warning confirmation on choices like this.

Outside of Alliance Alerts, beginning the first storyline mission in 5.10 will still auto-complete all other storylines, much like starting KOTFE. As with KOTFE, our general guideline for what choices are set by default is that Republic characters are assumed to make light side choices, and Imperial characters are assumed to make dark side choices. As examples, I've highlighted some of the major choices and how they default below, including a few where we have exceptions to the general guideline. Spoilers, of course!
Spoiler

So you can see there are some complexities and exceptions to the general guideline, but it's pretty consistent overall. None of this applies to a character who has already completed these storylines, of course, so if you want to see different variables set for your character, I would encourage you to play through the storylines before starting Jedi Under Siege

If you have any questions about the auto-complete process when starting Jedi Under Siege, don't hesitate to ask!

Thanks everyone!

The forced Arcann romance is unacceptable, the characters who romanced no one should be allowed to stay that way. How about my LS BH, does 5.10 automatically "divorce" her and Torian? Sorry, but this post is confusing.
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Hudlar
11.20.2018 , 04:58 PM | #10
Thanks for the detailed post! It's good to know that there may be references in the future to the decisions we made in KOTET and Fractured Alliances.