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Toraak
10.01.2018 , 05:53 PM | #511
Quote: Originally Posted by ColorfulCaiques View Post
The endgame PvP'ers and PvE'ers who play on that server would disagree with you on that, especially those that were forced to play an exorbitant amount of CC to transfer their toons to SF or DM for ranked pops.
I see plenty of end game PvE'ers on SS. don't know about PvP'ers, however only 1 transfer is needed, since you can level a character from 1-70 in about 15 hours in game. So transfer your main, with many sets of Legacy gear for any other classes you need. Merger isn't needed, if those people seriously want to transfer fine, but you don't need to transfer a ton of characters. Only need 1 for your legacy perks, any credits you want, and any legacy gear for all the classes you may decide to play.

SS is by no means a dead server, just may not have the population for the gameplay you like.
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10.01.2018 , 06:14 PM | #512
Free transfers would fix the problem for people who want mergers.
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10.01.2018 , 07:28 PM | #513
Quote: Originally Posted by Totemdancer View Post
Free transfers would fix the problem for people who want mergers.
Free transfers have never been offered except when shutting down a server. I have characters on both servers and I actively play on both. The communities are quite different too.. and I really do not want to see free transfer enabled moves from SS community to the SF community. There is a reason SF is popular and more active then SS, and it's NOT because of group activity requirements.

Besides...paid transfers work just as well as they move you where you want to go. Better in fact.. because free transfers just encourage server hopping back and forth for superficial reasons for to game some aspect of the game. They cannot game Ranked ratings anymore...but that was not the only gaming by players with respect to server transfers in the past when they were 90cc for more then a year.

The restless, guildless, friendless PvPers are running out of servers to declare as "the place to be for PvP".

But this is all academic because SS is nowhere near as dead as some players are pretending. In fact.. the only server I have seen any objective commentary as "being dead" or "dying" is the EU French server.. and I would submit that unless the French players agree.. it's just the usual misinformation being slathered around.
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10.01.2018 , 08:40 PM | #514
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Free transfers have never been offered except when shutting down a server. I have characters on both servers and I actively play on both. The communities are quite different too.. and I really do not want to see free transfer enabled moves from SS community to the SF community. There is a reason SF is popular and more active then SS, and it's NOT because of group activity requirements.

Besides...paid transfers work just as well as they move you where you want to go. Better in fact.. because free transfers just encourage server hopping back and forth for superficial reasons for to game some aspect of the game. They cannot game Ranked ratings anymore...but that was not the only gaming by players with respect to server transfers in the past when they were 90cc for more then a year.

The restless, guildless, friendless PvPers are running out of servers to declare as "the place to be for PvP".

But this is all academic because SS is nowhere near as dead as some players are pretending. In fact.. the only server I have seen any objective commentary as "being dead" or "dying" is the EU French server.. and I would submit that unless the French players agree.. it's just the usual misinformation being slathered around.
Most PvPers transferred to find games, not game the system.

Stating that SS is in steep decline is not misinformation or slander, it is a fairly reasonable observation. Your ability to defend the health of the game is amazing.

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Mournblood
10.01.2018 , 08:57 PM | #515
And let's say for the sake of argument that you get your way and they do another server merger. What are you going to do when there is only one US server and only one EU server and the population inevitably declines again? Are you going to ask for another server merger after that?

If you feel player population is an issue that is preventing you from enjoying the game, a server merger is only going to postpone that issue, as it did with the last server mergers. If you can't accept that reality, then perhaps you might consider moving on to a different game where the population density meets your expectations?
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IoNonSoEVero
10.01.2018 , 09:23 PM | #516
If people aren't happy on their server IMHO the onus should be on them to move or create new characters where they're happier. Not for everyone else to be upheaved, possibly lose names and be locked out of new strongholds and character creation to accommodate them.

Before the last set of mergers a lot of people acted like it was a panacea, and yet here we are again.

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CaptRogue
10.01.2018 , 10:24 PM | #517
Quote: Originally Posted by mhobin View Post
Most PvPers transferred to find games, not game the system.

Stating that SS is in steep decline is not misinformation or slander, it is a fairly reasonable observation. Your ability to defend the health of the game is amazing.
No PvPers move around to reset their rating, throw games, etc...

The queues were fine. Granked would be grouping often till S9 ended. Then all the sudden some of the PvPers thought the grass was greener on SF & left. Which started an exodus of the "elitist" PvPers to SF...give them time & they will be back. They did this on Harb to SL before mergers.
The state of the server is fine. Queue pops are frequent. Even lowbie PvP pops have been happening tonight.
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Totemdancer
10.02.2018 , 10:48 AM | #518
Best solution is for free transfers. Then people can move around to where they want to play.
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TUXs
10.02.2018 , 10:51 AM | #519
Quote: Originally Posted by Totemdancer View Post
Best solution is for free transfers. Then people can move around to where they want to play.
I could not agree more. Let em swap twice a day for all I care.
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Mournblood
10.02.2018 , 12:57 PM | #520
Quote: Originally Posted by Totemdancer View Post
Best solution is for free transfers. Then people can move around to where they want to play.
This is extremely short-sighted.

The problem with that is instead of having two glasses that are half full, you'll end up with one that's full and one that's empty. Unfortunately, not everyone will be able to take advantage of free transfers. Guilds don't transfer, for example. So a guild who's put in a lot of time and effort to unlock and decorate their flagship won't want to lose that. On a smaller scale, players who are doing well in Ranked won't want to reset their rating.

Free transfers only make sense when Bioware is preparing for server mergers, as it saves them work. The pay barrier of paid transfers effectively controls dramatic shifts in population.
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