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Time to merge the US servers... again. Primetime window getting smaller and smaller.

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kodrac
09.09.2018 , 10:44 AM | #401
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What are you talking about?
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strallart
09.09.2018 , 10:52 AM | #402
Should've already been 1 server to begin with.

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robertthebard
09.09.2018 , 12:27 PM | #403
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
I’d give up. He’s just here to argue with everyone and offer no substance to the conversations. (Even Luna and I had more constructive points when we were arguing), If you say white he’ll say black or gray.
He use to do this a lot when he was last subscribed, he’s trying to troll but just isn’t very good.
Let's look at my "just trying to argue":

You: I have proof that huttball isn't working as intended. Doesn't provide proof.
Other poster: Well, let's see the proof, because it's supposed to work this way.
You: You're just arguing to argue, get out of my thread.
Me: If you have the proof, provide it, it eliminates the chance of any confusion, if a casual reader can look at it and see what's going on.
You: Crickets.

Your inability to provide proof, something that can be witnessed in this thread as well, where you "don't want to start an argument by providing numbers during peak hours", and then attempting to blame anyone that asks about it of "trolling you", or misstating your opinion or goal of the post.

I provided, despite not wanting to really waste my time with it, because it was ignored the last time I provided it, a system that would have made PvP have some kind of relevance, and I provided it in this very thread. But, it doesn't treat PvPers like special snowflakes, so it's not "offering any substance" to the thread. This is the typical PvPer type response though, "If you're not agreeing with everything I say, you're trolling for the sake of trolling". I've seen it across multiple games, across multiple genres, so it comes as no surprise.

So instead of revamping, or reversing gearing, how about you come up with a way to make PvP more relevant? Getting participation trophies isn't going to do it. If it was, the PvP community wouldn't be having these issues, would they? Gating companions behind it didn't work, or we wouldn't have these issues, would we? Nerfing the classes into the ground didn't work, or we wouldn't have these issues. So, instead of "we want to be snowflakes", how about you come up with something that makes PvP mean something in swtor. I've laid out my thoughts on it, and surprise surprise, it would have even made Conquest relevant too. So far, your ideas equate to "give us more free stuff, surely there's a threshold where more people will play, we just have to keep giving 'em out until we find it".
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Also, just a small point. Why should anyone who plays this game exclusively for any particular type of content, have to run a different type of content just to earn gear? What is that attitude all about?

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Kiesu
09.09.2018 , 02:13 PM | #404
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
So instead of revamping, or reversing gearing, how about you come up with a way to make PvP more relevant?
Holy poodles dude. You really don't know what you're talking about. She has been doing nothing but providing details and thinking solutions for months if not even years on/off.

Obviously someone haven't been following the conversation... You can literally search trough her post history and you'll come across the posts where she provides numbers, proof, methods of stat tracking and numerous solutions and improvement ideas across the board.
Do some research before you demand everything to be reposted for your own convenience.
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Andryah
09.09.2018 , 03:20 PM | #405
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
Let's look at my "just trying to argue":

You: I have proof that huttball isn't working as intended. Doesn't provide proof.
Other poster: Well, let's see the proof, because it's supposed to work this way.
You: You're just arguing to argue, get out of my thread.
Me: If you have the proof, provide it, it eliminates the chance of any confusion, if a casual reader can look at it and see what's going on.
You: Crickets.
^^ Well encapsulated And in fact a common tactic being applied by the person you are responding to... on a range of topics.

But none of this is really that unusual in the typical passionate forum topic. So it's more a question of how best to respond to it, because it's not going to stop.

Back on topic.. and as an aside.... the OP dropped this bomb into the forum more then 2 weeks ago .. and quickly abandoned the thread. And I know he is an avid PvPer ... so I'm thinking he had a bad queue day, was frustrated, and felt the need to create the thread in the moment of frustration. Everyone else has simply picked it up and run with it as their current favorite forum chew-toy as well as issue numerous negative segways along the way.
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Lunafox
09.09.2018 , 03:50 PM | #406
Quote: Originally Posted by strallart View Post
Should've already been 1 server to begin with.
Well, it would've certainly pulled the bandage off the wound faster, so to speak, and eliminate any more worries about mergers. But, it was explained to us by Eric, that it was not possible because it would cause excessive lag, the possibility of more server downtime and queues when signing in to play.

Personally, I'm fine with two east coast servers, because I wasn't thrilled to have a merger in the first place and be subjected to an overcrowded environment and one that is hostile toward pve/story/rp players. I'm very thankful that Shadowlands was merged with the RP servers, because that style of play and it's players are less obtrusive to my own play style. The only thing that sucks, is the specter of yet another merge, which again, I don't want for any reason.

The other thing I disagreed with was eliminating West coast altogether. That was a bad idea.


Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post

Back on topic.. and as an aside.... the OP dropped this bomb into the forum more then 2 weeks ago .. and quickly abandoned the thread. And I know he is an avid PvPer ... so I'm thinking he had a bad queue day, was frustrated, and felt the need to create the thread in the moment of frustration. Everyone else has simply picked it up and run with it as their current favorite forum chew-toy as well as issue numerous negative segways along the way.
I agreed with your entire post, but especially this point. The OP hasn't really had much input since he started the thread. The thread just seems more of a 'key' to wind us up and watch us go lol.
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TrixxieTriss
09.09.2018 , 08:45 PM | #407
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post

Back on topic.. and as an aside.... the OP dropped this bomb into the forum more then 2 weeks ago .. and quickly abandoned the thread. And I know he is an avid PvPer ... so I'm thinking he had a bad queue day, was frustrated, and felt the need to create the thread in the moment of frustration. Everyone else has simply picked it up and run with it as their current favorite forum chew-toy as well as issue numerous negative segways along the way.
I believe he’s since left the game again due to it not popping enough when he is online. I could be mistaken, but that’s what it seems.

I hope he hasn’t left or will be back.

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TrixxieTriss
09.09.2018 , 09:06 PM | #408
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
Let's look at my "just trying to argue":

You: I have proof that huttball isn't working as intended. Doesn't provide proof.
Other poster: Well, let's see the proof, because it's supposed to work this way.
You: You're just arguing to argue, get out of my thread.
Me: If you have the proof, provide it, it eliminates the chance of any confusion, if a casual reader can look at it and see what's going on.
You: Crickets.

Your inability to provide proof, something that can be witnessed in this thread as well, where you "don't want to start an argument by providing numbers during peak hours", and then attempting to blame anyone that asks about it of "trolling you", or misstating your opinion or goal of the post.

I provided, despite not wanting to really waste my time with it, because it was ignored the last time I provided it, a system that would have made PvP have some kind of relevance, and I provided it in this very thread. But, it doesn't treat PvPers like special snowflakes, so it's not "offering any substance" to the thread. This is the typical PvPer type response though, "If you're not agreeing with everything I say, you're trolling for the sake of trolling". I've seen it across multiple games, across multiple genres, so it comes as no surprise.

So instead of revamping, or reversing gearing, how about you come up with a way to make PvP more relevant? Getting participation trophies isn't going to do it. If it was, the PvP community wouldn't be having these issues, would they? Gating companions behind it didn't work, or we wouldn't have these issues, would we? Nerfing the classes into the ground didn't work, or we wouldn't have these issues. So, instead of "we want to be snowflakes", how about you come up with something that makes PvP mean something in swtor. I've laid out my thoughts on it, and surprise surprise, it would have even made Conquest relevant too. So far, your ideas equate to "give us more free stuff, surely there's a threshold where more people will play, we just have to keep giving 'em out until we find it".
You really are stretching this discussion now by completing making stuff up. Where have I said anything about Hutt Ball??
What proof do I need to provide when I’ve not even been talking about Hutt Ball?

We have been discussing gearing.

You are all over the place. Do you even know what you are discussing? Are you ok? Everything you say jumps from one thing to another and half of it wasn’t even said.

Honestly, what are you trying to say? Just about everyone of your posts in this thread is an attack on someone or pvpers. How is anything you’ve said supposed to revitalise pvp when all you are doing is trashing it and any discussion about it.

You are arguing for the sake of it.

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TrixxieTriss
09.09.2018 , 11:51 PM | #409
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I dont know what that means

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IoNonSoEVero
09.10.2018 , 12:40 AM | #410
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
Well, it would've certainly pulled the bandage off the wound faster, so to speak, and eliminate any more worries about mergers. But, it was explained to us by Eric, that it was not possible because it would cause excessive lag, the possibility of more server downtime and queues when signing in to play.

Personally, I'm fine with two east coast servers, because I wasn't thrilled to have a merger in the first place and be subjected to an overcrowded environment and one that is hostile toward pve/story/rp players. I'm very thankful that Shadowlands was merged with the RP servers, because that style of play and it's players are less obtrusive to my own play style. The only thing that sucks, is the specter of yet another merge, which again, I don't want for any reason.

The other thing I disagreed with was eliminating West coast altogether. That was a bad idea.
ITA.

I also didn't like the way they did the mergers. They just lumped all the East Coast and West Coast servers together for the two new servers. But since everything is physically located on the East Coast, that really wasn't necessary.

IMHO since they knew full well that all the servers were moving to the East Coast, it would have been kinder/more player-friendly if they'd sorted the servers into "more RP/solo oriented" and "more PvP/Ops oriented" and merged them accordingly.

IIRC there were people on some of the smaller servers who were very upset they were going to be merged with Harbinger because that was a totally different player culture than they preferred, and there were a fair number of players who jumped over to Ebon Hawk to try to avoid that. But then Ebon Hawk was merged with at least one server with the same sort of population, and the RP community isn't what it once was, from what I have heard.

But yeah, taking away a West Coast server at all wasn't a swift move.