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Time to merge the US servers... again. Primetime window getting smaller and smaller.

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TrixxieTriss
08.31.2018 , 09:49 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroTypeR View Post
Is this request to merge because of low population?, or is it to avoid having to pay to transfer? Because, the server I'm on is quite active at all times of the day/night.
Which server would that be and can you define quiet active and what days and times during the day and night.

I don’t think the thread is about paying to transfers. I think it’s about people wanting mergers. But before mergers are needed, Bioware have options to try first. One would be cheap or free transfers.

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TrixxieTriss
08.31.2018 , 10:15 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by aerockyul View Post
That part isn't entirely fair to most of the PvPers in this game. Open World PvP was why those servers existed, not the warzones and arenas. They became smaller quicker because it turns out people who don't have experience with "types" of servers unwittingly chose those servers, were ganked to oblivion, and either left the game or wizened up to what each server category really meant, and the population of gankers and much smaller population of "real PvPers" was left so small that they were always going to be the first servers to die off.

I think it was an outstanding idea to make a separate instance in the "normal" () servers, but if you actually go to those instances, even when they were introduced, it is very rare to see 5 people of the same faction, but most often there are like 3-4 people total in there, and most of them ignore each other because they're in there for uninterrupted/non-ninja questing.

The OW PvPer in this game is non-existent (or so small as to be inconsequential, as Iokath has proven) and bears no weight in the arguments that Trixxie and other dedicated warzone/arena PvPers are making. Bioware will likely never throw another bone to OWPvP again, but standard PvP still has their ear (to a minimal extent, as has been discussed already, but at least there's hope knowing Keith is a PvPer)
He seems to not understand that as I’m mainly a pvper, my analysis will be from a pvp point of view, which is what I am passionate about and what I can discuss in detail.
He likes to pick on that point to see if he can make me react and argue with him
He chooses to forget all the posts where I acknowledge the game’s core (like all MMOs) is pve and story, of which all other parts of the game surround and intermingle. He forgets that I say the game is in a symbiosis with all other parts.
He doesn’t add that I support all aspects of this game as having equal right to exist. Like RP players who I respect, even though I don’t do it. All he does is pick one small part of a post and pulls it apart. By twisting things out of context and trying to paint someone in a bad light just to attack them for some sick enjoyment.

I don’t pretend to be an expert in the psyche of players in all parts of the game “like he does”. But I do understand the pvp part and that’s what I discuss. He doesn’t understand it and never will. The same as I don’t understand RPers (as an example). That doesn’t make their contribution to discussions any less valuable and I would never think of deriding them or targeting them like he targets pvpers and me especially. He has a specific hatred of me or he just likes to troll me personally. It’s easy to track some of his posting history for the last 2-3 years to see him trolling me (a lot has been removed for good reason).

Anyway, the easiest solution is to just ignore him when he trolls or gets all high and mighty. It’s a shame really because sometimes he makes some good points. But then spoils it by throwing in insults or personal attacks against people. We’ve all seen it, not just against me. It’s not needed and would make this forum more enjoyable if he stopped.

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casirabit
09.01.2018 , 05:47 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
I’ve a feeling people are just sick of the grind at lvl 70. There is so much more to do in this game than just grind CXP stuff.
You have all the side planet side quests, there are things to explore, datacrons, heroics, low level flash points and even low lvl pvp
I wonder how many people at those lvls are actually doing all of that or are they just rushing to lvl 70 again? I’m sure not many of them are pvping or it would pop more. Which leads me to think that a lot are F2P..
I know I made another alt (even though I already have over 16) because a friend of mine came back and wanted to level another character as my friend didn't have legendary status. I know I am not going to que for any pvp, I really don't care about pvp and rarely will do it.

As far as the datacrons, already have them so don't have to do them again (thank goodness). As for as the level 70 grind, it depends on if you think of it as a grind. I already have 4 characters in max 248 gear and didn't have to touch pvp to do it. I have mirror alts so for the most part I can remove the mods and transfer it that way. Of course that might be expensive but I only do it once a character gets to 300 and I only worry about that gear. I only do the missions I want and for the credits, since I am in the process of decorating our guild stronghold on Rishi and then after that I still have a few stronghold of mine to decorate, since I started redoing all mine (I have them all) and just recently finished Yavin and am now working on DK and Corscuant since I tend to have themes and certain "classes" will have ownership of those. I.E. Yavin-My Consulars, Coruscant-My Jedi Knights, etc.

I have also taken over 6 of my characters through KOET (et al) and plan to do it on the rest, just not in a rush. I play to have fun and will play my way and each day could be something different depending on what I want to do. Some days I just spend decorating, other days running some flashpoints for decorations, since all of the flashpoints dropped decorations, especially those that are solo.
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TrixxieTriss
09.01.2018 , 07:58 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by casirabit View Post
already have 4 characters in max 248 gear and didn't have to touch pvp to do it. I have mirror alts so for the most part I can remove the mods and transfer it that way. Of course that might be expensive but I only do it once a character gets to 300 and I only worry about that gear.
To make things more cost effective and usable on all mirror classes or multiple same class Alts, you could try using legacy one set of gear that you can switch back and forth without needing to remove things. I’m sure you do that to transfer items, but why not just keep them in the gear?

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xordevoreaux
09.01.2018 , 08:33 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
To make things more cost effective and usable on all mirror classes or multiple same class Alts, you could try using legacy one set of gear that you can switch back and forth without needing to remove things. I’m sure you do that to transfer items, but why not just keep them in the gear?
I flat out hate switching gear back and forth. I do it only when it's time to stuff the innards from duplicate drops from command crates into the legacy gear belonging to mirrored classes.

I have 118 toons across 4 accounts. All are sitting in their own legacy gear.

Recommending, as you have done, alternatives to gearing is absolutely fine, perhaps the person will even take you up on it and live a wonderful happy life for doing so, but it's never a matter of wondering why, as I'm sure some will do when they read my comment and then wonder why does that altoholic Xor not switch gear betweeen toons, it would be more efficient to do so.

Because that's not what I choose to do.
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IoNonSoEVero
09.01.2018 , 08:40 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by xordevoreaux View Post
I flat out hate switching gear back and forth. I do it only when it's time to stuff the innards from duplicate drops from command crates into the legacy gear belonging to mirrored classes.

I have 118 toons across 4 accounts. All are sitting in their own legacy gear.

Recommending, as you have done, alternatives to gearing is absolutely fine, perhaps the person will even take you up on it and live a wonderful happy life for doing so, but it's never a matter of wondering why, as I'm sure some will do when they read my comment and then wonder why does that altoholic Xor not switch gear betweeen toons, it would be more efficient to do so.

Because that's not what I choose to do.
Same here. I don't switch gear between characters; they each have their own set. All of my mirrored alts have their own gear. I want to be able to log into any character and have them ready to go without shuffling anything around.

The only sharing I will do is to pool the UCs that I get from disintegrating the components I don't need, so the alts all help each other gear up that way.

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Andryah
09.01.2018 , 09:05 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
Let me say this straight, so there can be no mistaking my position.
I am not an advocate for mergers unless absolutely needed.
I don’t think they are needed at the moment, I think it would be premature.
Trixxie and I may not agree on much... but we are in agreement on this.. which is actually one of the few comments that are actually on topic for this thread about the need to merge servers yet again.

Server merges will not fix peoples ongoing frustration with random queuing for PvP. I would expect that after several rounds of mergers over the years, and the complete elimination of PvP servers, this would be clear by now. Just because some players want to force everyone on to one server does not mean those players will random queue for PvP.

There is a lot wrong about how the studio has, and continues to, approach PvP in SWTOR. This has been true for more then 6 years now... and merging servers will simply not address it. At best.. it can mask the problem a bit for some players, but it does not address the underlying fundamentals at all ... as should be obvious now after observing the results of several server merge cycles.

Idealistic arguments and petitions for changes won't move the studio. Nor will "empirical" or "anecdotal" information from players. I would expect as we approach the 7th anniversary of this MMO... this would be obvious to everyone by now. I get the frustrations it causes....and in my view, as I have noted before... this is simply the wrong MMO for the random queuing player who exclusively plays for the PvP and wants little or no wait time to play instanced PvP.
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Damask_Rose
09.01.2018 , 09:42 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
I think Biowares mistake is marketing and making the game only about lvl 70 and by making it too easy to lvl and removing a lot of little rewards you got along the way. They’ve incentivised people to rush to lvl 70 and basically disregard everything along the way. If they made the game more about the journey and all aspects like it used to be, I think it would be more healthy.
This sums up my feelings exactly.

In my little corner, we are all about the story. When we finish a character's story (which often doesn't include FE/ET because of the companion debacle) we start another alt. Lvl 70s might be used for heroics to buy shinies or RP, but not for grinding gear.

I read the forums and Reddit every day and I regularly see new & returning players posting about how ridiculously easy the lower level content is and how fast it is to level. Then they get a slew of advice to not use companions, don't update gear, don't do side-content. I can't help but think that gives a bad first impression of the game. As much as I love this game and it's stories (and I also regularly see consensus that vanilla is by far the best part of the game), most people expect there to be some game play in their games, and not just going through the motions.
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casirabit
09.01.2018 , 12:15 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by xordevoreaux View Post
I flat out hate switching gear back and forth. I do it only when it's time to stuff the innards from duplicate drops from command crates into the legacy gear belonging to mirrored classes.

I have 118 toons across 4 accounts. All are sitting in their own legacy gear.

Recommending, as you have done, alternatives to gearing is absolutely fine, perhaps the person will even take you up on it and live a wonderful happy life for doing so, but it's never a matter of wondering why, as I'm sure some will do when they read my comment and then wonder why does that altoholic Xor not switch gear betweeen toons, it would be more efficient to do so.

Because that's not what I choose to do.

Bingo.

Not what I chose to do.
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casirabit
09.01.2018 , 12:17 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
To make things more cost effective and usable on all mirror classes or multiple same class Alts, you could try using legacy one set of gear that you can switch back and forth without needing to remove things. I’m sure you do that to transfer items, but why not just keep them in the gear?
Not my choice. I like each of my characters to have their own gear and not a problem for me to do it the way I do it.
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