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Cartel Bazaar vendors reputation change

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Cartel Bazaar vendors reputation change
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07.15.2018 , 09:41 AM | #1
I don't know if there will be a change in the future, but with the reputation change i can't use old gear anymore because they have now a new reputation i didn't have. It is quite irritating. There some stuff i put a lot of money in to get that reputation. Will it stay when the patch is going live and how can we get then that reputation?
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07.16.2018 , 10:34 AM | #2 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by DrakeVenku View Post
I don't know if there will be a change in the future, but with the reputation change i can't use old gear anymore because they have now a new reputation i didn't have. It is quite irritating. There some stuff i put a lot of money in to get that reputation. Will it stay when the patch is going live and how can we get then that reputation?
Can you let me know specifically which items aren't working?

Thanks!

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07.16.2018 , 11:09 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Can you let me know specifically which items aren't working?

Thanks!

-eric
I've also noticed this on the test server but I have to look it up later in game for some more examples. For instance there was an eye patch (can't remember the name atm) and the Revan mask which are both from the cartel certificate vendor in the Bazaar, both unwearable on my main Nal'augh suddenly on the Test server. One item, a chest piece from my Commando Nal'kazaamar has suddenly lost its color module slot on the Test server, but that's another topic.
Also in Legacy under reputation there are 4 or 5 renamed Reputation classes (that are those solely for the special cartel vendors like Esstran etc. in the Bazaar). I have zero reputation with all of them on the live servers but with the renamed ones on the test server I have "stranger" or however it is translated in english.
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07.16.2018 , 11:10 AM | #4
All items sold by the vendors in the left part of the Cartel Bazaar are affected. They now require standing with the "Underworld Exchange", a new reputation faction that does not appear under Reputation in the legacy window. Instead, the window shows the existing factions (Contraband Resale, Bounty Supply, ICE, Binary Star Realty, Esstran Exports etc.). We get to keep our standing with the old factions, but since all items were changed to the new faction, the items are unusable.

And don't feign innocence like that, the nameplate tag on all the vendors now says <Underworld Exchange>. This was an intentional change, you likely want to force us to purchase Ultimate packs and ignore our standing with the old factions.
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Lowarro
07.16.2018 , 01:45 PM | #5
I noticed this too, but I believe this is more a result of reputations not being copied to PTS, than any bug or change of functionality. Therefore it shouldn't be anything that would cause a problem when the patch goes live.
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CrazyScruffy
07.16.2018 , 03:05 PM | #6
I would be alright with all the vendors switching to a new rep. I don't plan on buying the old packs, as I purchased what I wanted from them on the GTN. therefore I have no influence (or very low) with most of them. But I would love the option to somehow purchase all the items, and a new rep would be the way to go.

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Screaming_Ziva
07.16.2018 , 03:55 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Can you let me know specifically which items aren't working?

Thanks!

-eric
All of them are not working.

Here are a couple images that show the differences between the PTS and live servers:

https://imgur.com/a/B6VIuCC

FIRST IMAGE:
On the top of the first image you can see all of the vendors with their old reputation track names. On the bottom of the first image (from the PTS), you can see they are all now <Underworld Exchange>

SECOND IMAGE:
On the second image you will see my BK-0 Combustion Chestpiece that I purchased a long time ago. The top image is from the live servers where it is listed as requiring Hero standing with the Contraband Resale Corporation.

On the bottom of the second image you will see the same character with the same BK-0 Combustion Chestpiece that was just copied over to the PTS. The same piece now requires Hero standing with Underworld Exchange and cannot be worn anymore.

This isn't a case of reputation not copying over to the PTS. This was a deliberate change with the cartel vendors and their items.

If this change was made to give more people access to these items via a new reputation track, that is perfectly fine. However, you have to grandfather in all of the people that have already completed any or all of these reputation tracks.
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Jerba
07.16.2018 , 04:18 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Screaming_Ziva View Post
If this change was made to give more people access to these items via a new reputation track, that is perfectly fine. However, you have to grandfather in all of the people that have already completed any or all of these reputation tracks.
Not only that, they better not remove the old factions. Players who spent real-world money to gain reputation there have unlocked various legacy titles; those must not be removed.
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JediBoadicea
07.16.2018 , 04:47 PM | #9
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Not only that, they better not remove the old factions. Players who spent real-world money to gain reputation there have unlocked various legacy titles; those must not be removed.
This a million times over. I've been with this game since beta and I have every single one of those Cartel Market reputation factions at Legend. If I were to lose a single title (I absolutely use those faction titles, they are good ones) or lose access to a single piece of gear (whether to wear or purchase in future) due to a reputation change that invalidates what I previously invested real-world money to achieve, I will lose my mind.

I wouldn't care if the old factions are removed, provided every single item those vendors sold are shifted over in a way that still takes into account the reputation threshold that was previously achieved. Honestly, though, that sounds like it would be a lot more complicated to manage than just not getting rid of the previous factions, because it's possible for someone to have Legend in one current CM faction and only Newcomer in another, so how does that reputation disparity get grandfathered in? Cases like mine where everything is at Legend would be easy, just set me at Legend with the new faction and we're done. But I suspect most cases won't be that simple.

That being said, when things copy over to PTS there seems to be a lot that doesn't carry over, so I'm not going to freak out just yet. But it's a very good thing to call out, to be sure there isn't a bug that slips in during go-live. It's harder to fix things after the fact than it is to insure they don't happen to begin with.

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phalczen
07.16.2018 , 06:07 PM | #10
The thing is, there is lots of cartel stuff that gets borked with PTS transfer. In love I unlocked additional inventory rows, and cargo hold tabs, and legacy cargo hold tabs, with CC, not credits, and yet every single time I PTS copy I lose my tabs and inventory rows. All that being said, this does seem to sound like a reputation consolidation to address the “missing”/ hard to obtain CM rep tracks for more recent players, and the devs just never finished the work to convert our old reputations to the consolidated one.
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